LumberJackSker Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, italianguard135 said: Let's all step back for a moment. Poor decisions in this game cost us the win, but let's think before we call for Frost's job after his second year. We need consistency right now more than anything else. Let the coaches finish out this recruiting cycle. Let them go through spring once more. Let them coach next fall, then evaluate and see if the fat needs to be trimmed more. We had some seniors who gave it their all today in their last game. Thank you to those guys! But, that senior class has a lot of guys who have not contributed to the team at all. We loss a few starters, but we have a lot coming back. The junior class has some guys who have not contributed much either, but with it being the third year under this staff, we may see some improvement next year. I really like what Frost is bringing in with his classes. We need more athleticism, but I think we are on the way. We have to remember that this is Frost's 4th year as a head coach. He is still going to need to learn a lot. Not an excuse, just a fact. Now, I want to jump back to my previous point of what we have returning for scholarship players next year. We have 17 seniors graduating. We have 7 that started or played a prominent role on the team this year. 4 who played sparingly and 6 who barely ever saw the field in their careers, if at all. That is not a good number. The junior class does not have near as many non-performers as the senior class. There are 18 juniors listed right now, with 1 who is a transfer sitting out. There are 13 of the junior class who started, would have started (Injury), or played major roles on the team this year. 3 who have not played much at all in their careers and 1 who is redshirting this year after arriving late from JUCO. I really think this junior class could have a decent senior year. Not necessarily in wins/losses, but in individual and team performance. The sophomore class, Frost's transition class, is a bit of a mixed bag so far. As they are only sophomores, I think they can't be judged in a similar way to how I am judging the upper classes. The sophomore class consists of 16 players. 8 who started, or would have started (Injury), or played prominent backup roles. 1 whose status with the team is unknown currently. The remaining 7 have played sparingly so far over their careers. This class includes arguably our best defensive player, and when he plays well, offensive player. The redshirt freshman "class" this year, consists of 9 players. 3 of which are no longer on the team, and the other 6 have potential. Now, the freshman class. 25 players. Overall a class full of potential. A few players who we have seen this year show athleticism and talent that we have been missing for years. The most important thing about this class, and possibly the most important aspect of this season, is that 23 of them will be redshirting. A full extra year in the program. Weightlifting, nutrition, and learning the playbook and schemes. Look for guys from this class to make a big impact next year and the following years. All of that to say, let's be patient just a little bit longer. I think we are almost there. There are small issues, certain coaching tendencies especially, that need adjustment. But I think we are on an overall good path, we just need to continue to be supportive and prove we are indeed the greatest fans out there. Go Big Red! Is anyone calling for frost job? Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just now, LumberJackSker said: Is anyone calling for frost job? Just goofballs or people high on the devil's lettuce. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
brophog Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, BoNeyard said: Second, those calling for Frost's job after year 2 are either not Nebraska fans, or are hashtag# era fans who expect results within 140 characters or less. I think they’re very passionate fans, that’s why they’re upset. It’s not unjustified in this era to want to see better results than this when the costs so much to support a program. A bowl game in the first two years is hardly an unrealistic expectation. If you think it is, go back to media days and see Frost’s reaction when told Moos’ 6-6 expectation this year. What is unrealistic is thinking he could be fired. That contract, as posted here at the time, is heavily favored towards Frost. It’s very design was to offset any potential knee jerk type reactions, even if the results through 2 years are far less than anyone expected. 2 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, LumberJackSker said: Is anyone calling for frost job? 1 minute ago, knapplc said: Just goofballs or people high on the devil's lettuce. This ^^^^ We've already lost if we need to try to placate the mouth breathers who erroneously believe Frost’s days are numbered at this point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, brophog said: I think they’re very passionate fans That's some of them. Not all of them. But even a passionate fan should realize you don't can Frost after season 2. Or season 3, depending on circumstances. Now, if he keeps calling that damned bubble screen pass next year, then we might have to talk. 3 Quote Link to comment
grandpasknee Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: This ^^^^ We've already lost if we need to try to placate the mouth breathers who erroneously believe Frost’s days are numbered at this point. I would, at great sacrifice, be willing to occasionally do testing on their lettuce, just to see if it is laced with some potent chemicals other than THC. Just researched based mind you. Quote Link to comment
Memba? Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, grandpasknee said: I would, at great sacrifice, be willing to occasionally do testing on their lettuce, just to see if it is laced with some potent chemicals other than THC. Just researched based mind you. Glaucoma right Gramps? Quote Link to comment
LumberJackSker Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: This ^^^^ We've already lost if we need to try to placate the mouth breathers who erroneously believe Frost’s days are numbered at this point. I just haven't seen any i guess. I see a lot of posts where people are furious that the coaches s#!tting their pants in close games this season kept this team from going to a bowl game but that's it. But i do have a couple people on ignore. Quote Link to comment
Jason Sitoke Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, knapplc said: Just goofballs or people high on the devil's lettuce. Most are just frustrated, including me. I am not calling for Frost, or his staff, to be fired. I just think it’s okay to say he’s doing a poor job, and that he needs to improve as a coach....without talking about the previous coach. 1 Quote Link to comment
italianguard135 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just now, LumberJackSker said: I just haven't seen any i guess. I see a lot of posts where people are furious that the coaches s#!tting their pants in close games this season kept this team from going to a bowl game but that's it. But i do have a couple people on ignore. For me, I mostly see it in the twitter crowd, no surprise. This post was mostly for me to voice an opinion and to say something somewhat positive about the team. Quote Link to comment
SFW Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Not to worry...Nothing will change next year. Same poor play calling and clock management. Same QB. Same defense minus a bunch of seniors. 2 Quote Link to comment
Memba? Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Does anyone still not recognize how the coach/asst changes have brought all this down on the program? The constant influx of new coaches over such a short time has created classes of mediocre football players and prodigious a$$ki$$ers who have learned how to ride the "good side" with little or no effort. That's working itself out, maybe another year. In the mean time sit tight and actually allow a culture to develop instead of gambling on the next catchy trend. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, brophog said: And it’s a quality, well developed post, that while I disagree with its underlying premise, I’m upvoting. Seems to be a rarity this season, not that I blame anyone. brophog...you're...you're still alive! Quote Link to comment
italianguard135 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Memba? said: Does anyone still not recognize how the coach/asst changes have brought all this down on the program? The constant influx of new coaches over such a short time has created classes of mediocre football players and prodigious a$$ki$$ers who have learned how to ride the "good side" with little or no effort. That's working itself out, maybe another year. In the mean time sit tight and actually allow a culture to develop instead of gambling on the next catchy trend. This is a great summation of what I was trying to say with my novel of a post. Quote Link to comment
4skers89 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Undone said: brophog...you're...you're still alive! I thought he went into the dredge. Quote Link to comment
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