if we go 5-7 in 2020, is frost the coach in 2021?

[knapplc]

1 hour ago, TheSker said:

If Frost does not make a bowl game next season, he will still be coach in 2021.  And 2022.

 

Who's going to terminate him?

 

1 hour ago, The Dude said:

Moos' replacement. We've all watched enough college football to know how this works.

 

So... no. 

 

Who's going to fire Moos?  And who among the boosters, Green and/or Osborne are going to hire a guy with the mandate to fire Frost when the boosters, Green and Osborne all believe in Frost? 

 

1 hour ago, TheSker said:

Here's one of the staggering reasons Frost would be in zero danger, even in the next couple of seasons.

 

$150 million

 

Here are four other staggering reasons.

 

Ronnie Green, Tom Osborne, Bill Moos, donors......and those four reasons are heavily intertwined.

 

Frost has the FULL support of all the above.

 

[Dogs In A Pile]

No, Scott will be around for years to come regardless of what we do next year. And 5-7 is probably optimistic.

[Hedley Lamarr]

17 hours ago, SFW said:

5-7 is optimistic 

I'm going with 8-4 next year :-) 

[Bookie Killer]

1 hour ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

I'm going with 8-4 next year :-) 

[The Dude]

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

 

 

So... no. 

 

Who's going to fire Moos?  And who among the boosters, Green and/or Osborne are going to hire a guy with the mandate to fire Frost when the boosters, Green and Osborne all believe in Frost? 

 

 

 

If they care more about keeping Frost employed at all costs than they care about the actual success of the program then they all need to go.

[knapplc]

5 minutes ago, The Dude said:

 

If they care more about keeping Frost employed at all costs than they care about the actual success of the program then they all need to go.

 

That's not really realistic though, is it?

18 minutes ago, Bookie Killer said:

 

I know, right? 9-3, easy!

 

 

[The Dude]

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

That's not really realistic though, is it?

 

It's realistic.  Athletic directors and coaches get fired every single year.

[knapplc]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

It's realistic.  Athletic directors and coaches get fired every single year.

 

But you're talking about getting rid of Green, Osborne, boosters, Mooster and Frost.

 

Because that's what it's going to take.

[The Dude]

Just now, knapplc said:

 

But you're talking about getting rid of Green, Osborne, boosters, Mooster and Frost.

 

Because that's what it's going to take.

 

Just Moos and Frost.  Keep up.

[runningblind]

22 minutes ago, The Dude said:

 

If they care more about keeping Frost employed at all costs than they care about the actual success of the program then they all need to go.

 

3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

 

Just Moos and Frost.  Keep up.

 

Huh?  Talking yourself in circles. 

 

Frost is it, like it or not he will be here for 5+ more years,  even if he continues to struggle.  They're committed to getting off the coaching carousel.  You best settle in or find something else to spend your days thinking about. 

[The Dude]

9 minutes ago, runningblind said:

 

 

Huh?  Talking yourself in circles. 

 

Frost is it, like it or not he will be here for 5+ more years,  even if he continues to struggle.  They're committed to getting off the coaching carousel.  You best settle in or find something else to spend your days thinking about. 

 

Sigh.  It's extremely unlikely they'll all care about keeping Frost at all costs more than they'll care about the success of the program.

 

Why on earth would they?

 

I get wanting stability, but 4-8 & 5-7 with another consecutive losing season tacked on would far from stable.

[knapplc]

18 minutes ago, The Dude said:

It's extremely unlikely they'll all care about keeping Frost at all costs more than they'll care about the success of the program.

 

Why on earth would they?

 

That football complex isn't getting built for any other coach. There is a LOT of money tied up in that thing, that is ostensibly tied up in Frost.  That's with the blessing of the boosters who would have to fire Moos, with Osborne's blessing and with Green's blessing (and Bounds' FWIW).

 

I think people thinking Frost is on any kind of hot seat aren't thinking big picture.  He could go 0-12 next year - he's not getting fired.

[Red Five]

44 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I get wanting stability, but 4-8 & 5-7 with another consecutive losing season tacked on would far from stable.

Actually that would be stable.  Just not the good kind...

[Hedley Lamarr]

23 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

That football complex isn't getting built for any other coach. There is a LOT of money tied up in that thing, that is ostensibly tied up in Frost.  That's with the blessing of the boosters who would have to fire Moos, with Osborne's blessing and with Green's blessing (and Bounds' FWIW).

 

I think people thinking Frost is on any kind of hot seat aren't thinking big picture.  He could go 0-12 next year - he's not getting fired.

When we start the season 7-0 and beat 2 of Minny, Wisconsin and Iowa to finish with 9 wins he will get another year added on. 

[Undone]

If we go 5-7 next season, I’d probably guess there’d be at least a bit of a sea change in the overall level of interest in the program. Thus making Frost being the guy through the end of his contract something that fewer and fewer people will actually care about anyway.