Bond 25: No Time to Die

[Toe]

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“If I did another Bond movie, it would only be for the money.”

 

[Redux]

I'm glad, I really enjoy his take on Bond.  And the way they ended his run was garbage.  4 films and he never got over Vesper's death, until he meets whatshername halfway through the last one and falls for her and that's that.

[NUinID]

Each guy that played Bond brought different things to the character.  I like all of them in different ways.  

 

Sean Connery was such a lady killer.  The first 3 he did Dr. No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger were really good. They went downhill after that with him.  

 

George Lazenby only did 1 For Her Majesty's Secret Service it is actually one of my favorites.  Bond is vulnerable and falls in love. 

 

Roger Moore's Bond was much more humerus and campy.  He played Bond in the most movies.  He played Bond 7x and probably should have stopped at 4 or 5.  He was actually older than Connery just looked younger.  My favorites of his is probably the least well received.  I like the Man with the Golden Gun. You can't go wrong with Christopher Lee as the bad guy.  His later ones just got silly. 

 

Timothy Dalton was probably the Bond that was most like character in the books.  Much more serious and ruthless.  Similar to Daniel Craig, but the world wasn't ready for Bond to be serious.  His 2 movies are considered pretty good though. 

 

Pierce Brosnan as someone said had pretty bad scripts.  I thought he was good as Bond but his movies got way too gadgety.  Goldeneye was pretty good.  

 

Daniel Craig is good as Bond.  More like Timothy Dalton not quite as angry though.  I like his take.  One thing that makes his movies better is that he has better actors surrounding him. Judi Dench, Ralph Fiennes, in recurring roles.  Casino Royal and Skyfall are really good movies. Spector is pretty good. Only the second one which I can't remember the name of is not very good. 

[teachercd]

Could Alan Rickman ever played bond?  What say you?

[NUinID]

I got curious and googled Bond movie rankings.  Every list was different and all over the place. Most had Goldfinger at #1 but one had it as low as 9.  

 

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/life/movies/2019/06/12/every-james-bond-movie-ranked-worst-to-best/39571451/

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/best-james-bond-movies-list-ranked

 

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/24/james-bond-on-film-ranked

 

https://collider.com/james-bond-movies-ranked-worst-to-best/#goldfinger

 

Here are 4 sites to look at if you want. Lots of different opinions.  The last one has a View to a Kill at 13.  I would rank it about 24,

[Landlord]

I love Craig's bond. Mostly because it's a character that actually has some humanity and depth, but is still "Bond". The quintessential and frankly imo dated idea of Bond isn't a real person; it's a caricature or an archetype. Craig's Bond is written and produced in such a way as to have flaws, which makes successes and triumphs feel that much more valuable imo. 

[Mavric]

 

[Redux]

I really didn't care for how they went all in on Bond being his real name.  I thought it added an element to leave it suspected that James Bond was also a code name that could be passed on like 007.

 

But Craig is great in the role, looking forward to this.

[Lorewarn]

Very excited for this film and have really loved the Daniel Craig era a ton.

 

 

The only two gripes I have with the franchise's story with his character are a) it seems like he retires and comes out of retirement in every single movie, and b) it seems like they keep re-writing the same "i'm the actual mastermind in the shadows that has been orchestrating everything this whole time" villain at least for the last three films. 

[suh_fan93]

Yeah I'm definitely looking forward to this.  

[admo]

On 12/4/2019 at 12:26 PM, teachercd said:

Could Alan Rickman ever played bond?  What say you?

Tom Hiddleston could, I think. 

 

But yeah, all former Bonds were good or great.  Craig is the best imo, probably because the films are a lot more updated.  Casino Royale was amazing.

[Lorewarn]

I know Idris Elba as the next James Bond is essentially a meme at this point, but I imagine I'd actually love him in the role.

 

BTW, Henry Cavill is actually British and would be a really interesting return to the suave clean-cut brunette idea of the character. Robert Pattison would be interesting as well.

[suh_fan93]

 

[Cdog923]

On 9/1/2021 at 12:49 AM, Lorewarn said:

I know Idris Elba as the next James Bond is essentially a meme at this point, but I imagine I'd actually love him in the role.

 

BTW, Henry Cavill is actually British and would be a really interesting return to the suave clean-cut brunette idea of the character. Robert Pattison would be interesting as well.

 

Armie Hammer being a literal psychopath is one big reason we aren't getting another The Man from U.N.C.L.E. movie, which pisses me off, as that movie was a lot of fun, and Cavill was excellent in it. 

[admo]

On 12/4/2019 at 9:05 AM, GSG said:

I haven't seen any of the Daniel Craig films... 

You have to watch Casino Royale.  He dies at the end of the movie, but comes back to life like J Voohries. 

 

And then he dies, again.  The pitchfork got him for good.  You got to watch it!  One of my favorite movies of all time.