N is for nowledge Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I’ve seen across threads people blaming all of the current situation on mike Riley. No Riley apologist but let’s be clear, Frost is cleaning up the mess of the last 20+ years. That includes mr, bo, cally, and yes Solich. As much good as TO did for our university as HC he really screwed it multiple times as an AD. The administration also deserves as much blame as can be thrown their way. I know now this may hurt many of the bo apologists who think the man falls just short of god but thems the facts. It will take time and that’s because of the amount of damage that can occur over 4 coaches and 20+ years. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
10_point_buck Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Fixing it or adding to it? Before we dump the praise on him for what he has fixed, let’s see it happen or he is just another name on your list. Jury is still out IMO 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The one thing Frost has that Riley didn’t is a grace period. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I agree with the OP. The job isn't just fixing Riley's mess. Bo and Callahan inflicted their own types of damage as well. I'm not sure Solich contributed much beyond just not being as good as Tom. But Cally threw the baby out with the bath water and Bo, even though he reestablished some toughness and a certain level of winning, kind of did a number on his way out. Add in MR's ten-ply soft culture after all that and it is a much bigger job than any of us probably realized. Frost definitely has some learning to do as well and it will just depend if he is willing to adapt and learns when he needs to stop being so loyal and committed to certain players and coaches. I have no doubts that his level of commitment to getting the Huskers back to where they belong is second to none. People talking about staff changes and questioning his decisions are plum effing nuts. Like it or not, we have to give him the time to learn and get it right. Considering the expectations and where this program was, it's probably the biggest rebuild job ever attempted in major college football. 3 2 Quote Link to comment
N is for nowledge Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, krc1995 said: The one thing Frost has that Riley didn’t is a grace period. And a supportive admin, and as much as I despise bo he didn’t have the support either 3 Quote Link to comment
N is for nowledge Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: I agree with the OP. The job isn't just fixing Riley's mess. Bo and Callahan inflicted their own types of damage as well. I'm not sure Solich contributed much beyond just not being as good as Tom. But Cally threw the baby out with the bath water and Bo, even though he reestablished some toughness and a certain level of winning, kind of did a number on his way out. Add in MR's ten-ply soft culture after all that and it is a much bigger job than any of us probably realized. Frost definitely has some learning to do as well and it will just depend if he is willing to adapt and learns when he needs to stop being so loyal and committed to certain players and coaches. I have no doubts that his level of commitment to getting the Huskers back to where they belong is second to none. People talking about staff changes and questioning his decisions are plum effing nuts. Like it or not, we have to give him the time to learn and get it right. Considering the expectations and where this program was, it's probably the biggest rebuild job ever attempted in major college football. This x10000. Frost is in yr 4 of his HC career. He had to rebuild depth that had been mismanaged for the better part of a decade. He is still evolving as a play caller and game manager. The good part is he has all the support and rope he needs imo. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, N is for nowledge said: And a supportive admin, and as much as I despise bo he didn’t have the support either Yup. Very important room and the support to grow. Quote Link to comment
Atbone95 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Thanks for the nowledge. V insightful. Quote Link to comment
SFW Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 If he can’t figure out how to be a good game day coach, nothing else will matter. Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 20+ years? Like the crap in 95 or 97? Quote Link to comment
madrat Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 hours ago, JJ Husker said: I agree with the OP. The job isn't just fixing Riley's mess. Bo and Callahan inflicted their own types of damage as well. I'm not sure Solich contributed much beyond just not being as good as Tom. But Cally threw the baby out with the bath water and Bo, even though he reestablished some toughness and a certain level of winning, kind of did a number on his way out. Add in MR's ten-ply soft culture after all that and it is a much bigger job than any of us probably realized. Frost definitely has some learning to do as well and it will just depend if he is willing to adapt and learns when he needs to stop being so loyal and committed to certain players and coaches. I have no doubts that his level of commitment to getting the Huskers back to where they belong is second to none. People talking about staff changes and questioning his decisions are plum effing nuts. Like it or not, we have to give him the time to learn and get it right. Considering the expectations and where this program was, it's probably the biggest rebuild job ever attempted in major college football. How do these co-exist in your argument? 2 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Red Five said: 20+ years? Like the crap in 95 or 97? Well....20 years goes back to 1999 or 2000. So.....why are you asking this? Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Well....20 years goes back to 1999 or 2000. So.....why are you asking this? Because he said 20+, not 20. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Red Five said: Because he said 20+, not 20. So.....1998 and 1999 could be the “+”. 1 Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: So.....1998 and 1999 could be the “+”. I'm guessing those are the ones. Since he mentioned Frank. I guess to be clear the OP could've said post Tom Quote Link to comment
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