Danny Bateman Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 There's a bitter irony that anti-science bootlicker dips#!ts like Jim Jordan try to ride in on their white horses protecting football and pretend like they haven't been encouraging the wrong behavior every step of the way during this pandemic. 4 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: It’s possible we could have done better, it’s also possible that in the long-run, the virus is going to make its way through most population centers no matter the mitigation. Europe is increasing, parts of Asia increasing, parts of South America increasing. There are a few papers in medical journals that are starting to look at the herd immunity levels for Covid-19 being 20-40% of the population. Many of the highly hit population centers reached that point and then saw a drastic downturn in case numbers. It’s a VERY contagious virus and it’s possible that it’s going to run it’s natural course at some point no matter the mitigation. Remember this, regardless of sports being played or not, the whole point of mitigation back in March and April was to spread out the infection numbers across many months. It was NOT to necessarily completely stop the virus. Breaking this down bit by bit, of course it may run through the whole population, but the slower it does that, the more time we have to create therapies and vaccines ultimately driving down the death rate. Getting through this faster will cause more death, period. As far as herd immunity goes, we don't actually know. There are also experts out there who don't think its possible at all. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/24/894148860/without-a-vaccine-researchers-say-herd-immunity-may-never-be-achieved As far as places that have seen a downturn, specifically the northeast, they have seen such because they are taking precautions. The point of mitigation is still to flatten the curve, but the problem in America is we never really did that. We have let it sweep through our country region by region. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 President Big Boy weighing in on football. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 20 hours ago, Moiraine said: Yep. They have sheep. SHEEP RUN FOR YOUR LIVES Link to comment
Moiraine Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said: Do Your f#&%ing Job! 4 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Do Your f#&%ing Job! That's the problem. He thinks his job is tweeting. He wants to be a cheerleader and doesn't want to do the hard work. 2 Link to comment
Jason Sitoke Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Nebfanatic said: Breaking this down bit by bit, of course it may run through the whole population, but the slower it does that, the more time we have to create therapies and vaccines ultimately driving down the death rate. Getting through this faster will cause more death, period. As far as herd immunity goes, we don't actually know. There are also experts out there who don't think its possible at all. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/24/894148860/without-a-vaccine-researchers-say-herd-immunity-may-never-be-achieved As far as places that have seen a downturn, specifically the northeast, they have seen such because they are taking precautions. The point of mitigation is still to flatten the curve, but the problem in America is we never really did that. We have let it sweep through our country region by region. I think we’ve still got a ways to go before we decide that the northeast is better off because of x or y. Massachusetts has suffered more Covid deaths than Texas so far. Obviously Texas’ death numbers lag further behind, but it is also nearly 5x bigger in terms of population. New York State has suffered > 25,000 deaths. I believe the precautions certainly help, but there might be some evidence that these places were simply hit earlier than others. Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said: I think we’ve still got a ways to go before we decide that the northeast is better off because of x or y. Massachusetts has suffered more Covid deaths than Texas so far. Obviously Texas’ death numbers lag further behind, but it is also nearly 5x bigger in terms of population. New York State has suffered > 25,000 deaths. I believe the precautions certainly help, but there might be some evidence that these places were simply hit earlier than others. Texas has also seen an unusually high number of pneumonia deaths not classified as COVID this year. Same thing is happening in Florida. I see where you are coming from as far as NY getting it early but then it would seem California wouldn't be having as much trouble. There is alot of data and it doesn't always make sense realistically its going to take time to parse it all out. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Listening to the Trump presser, it's explicitly clear why we are where we are right now: The president is an conspiratorial, narcissistic moron. Edit: Exhibit A. 3 Link to comment
Jason Sitoke Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said: The president is an conspiratorial, narcissistic moron. Is this your first day here? 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said: Is this your first day here? Nah. Today's just one of those days when the bad stuff seems worse and the good stuff is hard to make out. It's frustrating and saddening. 1 Link to comment
teachercd Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Danny Bateman said: Nah. Today's just one of those days when the bad stuff seems worse and the good stuff is hard to make out. It's frustrating and saddening. Just wait...Biden/Rice is going to give us some of the best quotes over...Biden messing up...Rice cleaning up his mess. Biden doing old school pity racist comments and Rice coming in to to tell us what he really meant. 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Danny Bateman said: Listening to the Trump presser, it's explicitly clear why we are where we are right now: The president is an conspiratorial, narcissistic moron. Edit: Exhibit A. Right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 10 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Germans? 1 Link to comment
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