knapplc Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, mrandyk said: I can only imagine how much worse the pandemic is going to get over the next few months now that we are entering an infectious disease's most impactful environment, Winter. The upper midwest is already in a precarious situation on November 10. The numbers have been surging unchecked while outdoors activities were possible, how much worse do they get once everyone is forced inside? How much worse does it get as we introduce the seasonal flu? I think the past 8-9 months was just a warmup unfortunately. At least we have trump in charge the next two months so it'll be all taken care of. 2 Link to comment
mrandyk Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, knapplc said: At least we have trump in charge the next two months so it'll be all taken care of. I rest easy knowing that he won't let the election results impact his handling of the virus. 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, RedDenver said: Our school district is going back to remote learning starting Monday. Yeah, out in Illinois a lot of them are doing the same. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Why would people go see this band? Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Moiraine said: Why would people go see this band? My my my, once bitten and twice shy. 4 Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Prep shutting down and going all remote for the rest of the month. 16 new cases since Halloween. Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Hey they just announced that masks protect the person wearing it and people around them! This is the hard hitting science that we need to stop this! I wonder, and I am not a scientist, but I wonder if staying 20 feet apart from each other would be better than staying 6 feet apart? s#!t, we will never know, there is no way scientists could figure that out. Okay, I gotta go take a sip from this opened water bottle I just found. 2 1 Link to comment
TGHusker Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, teachercd said: Okay, I gotta go take a sip from this opened water bottle I just found I was wondering where I left it. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 The beer guy with the excellent point. Where voters supported trump the most, the virus was worst. Because trump supporters believe his nonsense. "Stop living in fear." "Open back up." 1 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, knapplc said: The beer guy with the excellent point. Where voters supported trump the most, the virus was worst. Because trump supporters believe his nonsense. "Stop living in fear." "Open back up." Great info. Misleading, but great. That article and graph show cases per 100k in population. So density. The actual number of cases is 5.2 million in Biden counties, with 3.8 million in Trump counties. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Great info. Misleading, but great. That article and graph show cases per 100k in population. So density. The actual number of cases is 5.2 million in Biden counties, with 3.8 million in Trump counties. It isn't misleading at all. It explicitly states that this is since August, when trump & his supporters grew tired of the whole thing. Quote But while early indications suggest that the deadly disease was the most driving factor among those who voted for President-elect Joseph Biden, while the moribund economy it spurred was of most concern to the outing President’s supporters, there lies a strange conundrum here: The regions of the country that Trump carried have also been those most plagued by COVID-19 since late August, according to TIME’s analysis of Associated Press voting results by county and the local rates of COVID-19 since March. On Nov. 3, the day of the election, the counties that broke for Trump had a collective rate of 38 new infections a day per 100,000 people, compared to 27 in those that supported Biden. A week out from the election, we have fairly complete data on returns in almost all of the 3,141 counties and county equivalents. At present, Biden has won 491 counties to Trump’s 2,544, which will shift marginally when the last few counties come in. This is a typically lopsided count that means very little since Democratic counties are vastly more populous. (Hillary Clinton won 487 counties four years ago, and Obama won 693 counties in 2012.) When one tallies the number of cases in those two different blocs of counties, day by day, the rate of new cases per day flipped from being consistently higher in Biden Territory to considerably worse in Trump’s physically larger, more rural turf on Aug. 20, days before Trump accepted the nomination at the Republican National Convention. 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, knapplc said: It isn't misleading at all. It explicitly states that this is since August, when trump & his supporters grew tired of the whole thing. Yeah, I know. But it doesn't explicitly state that it is not overall cases, but rather cases per 100k in population density. The graph makes it look like there are more total cases to bolster the "headline", when in actuality there are 1.4 million less cases (since August-thanks) in a much less densely populated sample of the 2,500 counties that voted for Trump. Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, DevoHusker said: Yeah, I know. But it doesn't explicitly state that it is not overall cases, but rather cases per 100k in population density. The graph makes it look like there are more total cases to bolster the "headline", when in actuality there are 1.4 million less cases (since August-thanks) in a much less densely populated sample of the 2,500 counties that voted for Trump. The per-capita rate is important to the point the article is making. It's hard to argue that in a much lower-populated area, cases per 100K is worse in trump country. It's pretty easy to see why that would be, yes? 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I didn't say it was wrong, I said it was misleading. Here is the Tweet and graph. Show me where it says cases per 100k or refers to density? Until you click on the link, it refers to neither. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, DevoHusker said: Great info. Misleading, but great. That article and graph show cases per 100k in population. So density. The actual number of cases is 5.2 million in Biden counties, with 3.8 million in Trump counties. Using total volume would be the most stupid way to compare these. It's per capita that matters. It's also important to note that more densely populated areas should have a higher transmission rate if all things were equal, and that isn't the case here. 1,000 cases per 100,000 in New York City would be less concerning than 1,000 cases per 100,000 in western Nebraska. 2 Link to comment
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