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4 hours ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

I truly believe Sanders would be a hard sell in FL. His comments about Castro will be used in the worst faith by the GOP but it will be enough to repel the significant Cuban population there. I know others feel FL might flip due to felons recently receiving the right to vote there but IMO that's going to make it very hard for Bernie to be competitive there. He should probably just focus on the Rust Belt. Biden on the other hand could put FL in play and thus she probably is a better fit for him than Bernie.

 

I think she'd be a really bad choice but I could see Bernie picking Gabbard.

I don't think any of the Dem candidates are going to beat Trump in Florida, so I'm not sure it matters.

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On 3/3/2020 at 8:40 AM, sho said:

I voted other.  I say Val Demings would be the best choice for VP, regardless of who is on top of the ticket.  She balances both.   She's strong in criminal justice, her strategies helped lower crime rates while she was Chief of Police in Orlando.   History of social work before law enforcement.   From Florida, which IMO, helps Florida become a blue state.   She was one of impeachment managers, and I feel did really well there.   And it doesn't hurt that she's a minority female.   There's already a lot of chirping that it's two white old men to vote for, this will help battle that.    And I do believe that she (or whomever the VP is) will eventually end up President.  I think with both Bernie and Joe, there is already enough hints of questionable health that 4 years of high stress will not do them well.

Good stuff, I just came in here to see if there was any talk about Demings.

 

2016 Presidential:

  • 49.02% Trump
  • 47.82% Clinton

2018 Gubernatorial: 

  • 49.6% DeSantis
  • 49.2% Gillum

 

If Florida flips, that's probably the WH.

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For what it is worth, yahoo has a way of saying a lot without saying anything.   

 

Val Demings, Stacey Abrams, and in particular  Kamala Harris seem to be the leading Biden options. 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-233324627.html

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"It's got to be somebody that the Democratic Party can see its future in," he said.

Russell pointed to Florida Rep. Val Demings, a former Orlando police chief who endorsed Biden on Thursday, as a strong candidate for the former vice president. Another Democratic strategist said either Demings or New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham would make good running mates for Biden. And Axios reported last year that Biden was considering former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams as his pick. 

A Democratic operative working to elect Biden predicted the candidate would choose Sen. Kamala Harris of California, who dropped out of the 2020 race in December, as his running mate. Harris, a former prosecutor and attorney general of her home state, ran on a more progressive platform than Biden but shied away from some of the progressive left's boldest proposals. Harris is considering endorsing Biden, according to The New York Times

"I'd be surprised if it wasn't Kamala Harris," he told Insider. "I actually think [she] is pretty pragmatic. I think Kamala Harris is closer to Joe Biden's form of politics than she ever was to the stuff she was trying to do on the campaign."

Though Harris was critical of Biden's record on race during the primary, the former vice president praised her when she dropped out of the race. 

"Sen. Harris has the capacity to be anything she wants to be," Biden said in December. "I talked to her yesterday. She's solid. She can be the president one day herself. She can be the vice president. She can go on to be a Supreme Court justice."

The operative said Sanders may have a harder time finding a running mate who will have broad appeal and be willing to be branded a democratic socialist. Some have suggested former Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner, a national cochair of Sanders' campaign, or Sen. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, a progressive with a strong track record of wins in a swing state. 

"He doesn't want to seem as if he's selling out his people. There is an appearance piece of this, so it's gotta be someone who's going to pass the smell test with his supporters," he said. 

Basil Smikle, the former executive director of the New York State Democratic Party, largely agreed. 

"For Biden, I imagine black voters who were critical to his resurgence will be looking for an African American running mate," Smikle told Insider. "For Sanders, I think someone that fits his policy profile but may assuage concerns among 'establishment' Dems is possible, though few may fit the model."

But the two Democratic frontrunners find their strongest support in very different segments of the Democratic electorate. While Sanders has a significant lead over Biden among young voters and Latino voters, the former vice president is much more popular than his competitor among older and suburban voters. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

Nah I think he just meant most liberals despise Gabbard.

 

Sounds like a Liberal problem.  The Libs will vote Blue for the sake of voting Blue.  Tulsi would appeal to other potential voters, at least IMO.

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16 hours ago, TGHusker said:

How so??

 

Personally, I want a more progressive VP choice for a more centrist top of the ticket.   Especially with M4A.   I think right now we see the trouble with healthcare tied mostly to employment.  Harris flip-flopping on that based on her donors and Biden not for it, to me both will be in the hands of health insurance companies and not be for the people.   Neither of these really inspires me to believe that progressive agendas will be pushed for or a priority for these two.   

 

And I'm not sure she helps Biden's campaign with minorities and females.   She never polled well with minorities, she never had strong female support during her failed run.   Personally there are 3-4 minority females that I would pick in front of her, and I think it would be important for the candidate to be from the South to help in that region.   Harris adds nothing to Joe's campaign.

 

The pick of Harris (If that is the pick) disenfranchises the youth, and future of the party, which are more progressive in ideology and I think it would have been wise to have a more progressive leaning candidate to have a wider appeal for the dems as a whole.   Biden will get the centrist and some independants.   A progressive VP choice would have kept the more voters from potentially voting 3rd party or sitting out.

 

Now for me the vote is between two awful tickets or wasting a vote on third party. 

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