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4 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

 

But why not pass a relief focused bill for the citizens now, and work out another broad spectrum Covid package for all concerns later? It would be a lot easier than forgiving Trillions in college loan debt, and working the math to see if it stimulates the economy or gets to the refrigerator of those who need it most?

 

Because of what I said earlier.

 

Pelosi is in active negotiations right now with Mnuchin. What's the purpose of Moscow Mitch bringing these bills to the floor of the Senate in the midst of those negotiations? 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Because of what I said earlier.

 

Pelosi is in active negotiations right now with Mnuchin. What's the purpose of Moscow Mitch bringing these bills to the floor of the Senate in the midst of those negotiations? 

 

 

 

I have no use for the Turtle or his tactics. But, Nancy also played the game. 

 

This is where a Bipartisan outlook should govern, not this partisan back and forth crap that we have been seeing for the past 4 years. Get together and pass something that benefits everyone. 

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What's on the table, and why half of it is a sham:

 

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Why a Senate vote on stimulus has failed, again

 

The Wednesday vote on the Republican crafted bill, which included about $500 billion in aid, ended up breaking along party lines, 51-44, and falling short of the 60 votes needed for the legislation to advance. Republicans, broadly, supported moving ahead with the legislation while Democrats did not.

 

This legislation was not the product of any deal between the two parties’ lawmakers, so this outcome was expected. Rather, it was the latest version of a narrow bill that Senate Republicans have offered to demonstrate that they are working on stimulus — and to argue that Democrats are the ones obstructing its progress for voting it down. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer earlier this week dubbed the vote a “stunt.”

 

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, meanwhile, has argued that “Democratic leaders have spent months holding out for a long far-left wish list of non-Covid-related priorities and obstructing any additional aid until they get it.”

 

In reality, Senate Republicans are the ones who could be the roadblock to a deal: As Democrats and the White House have engaged in negotiations, McConnell has been far less involved — while repeatedly emphasizing that many of his members aren’t interested in more comprehensive aid. And even as he’s put a narrower Republican bill on the floor, he’s actively discouraged a compromise option.

 

This week, McConnell made his own opposition to a White House-Democratic deal explicit: He told Senate Republicans that he’s urged the White House not to make a deal with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi prior to the election, the New York Times reports. GOP members, including Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Ben Sasse (R-NE), are among those who’ve repeatedly said they can’t accept the larger bill Pelosi has advocated for. McConnell, too, has expressed concerns about a vote on a stimulus deal interfering with the time table for the confirmation of Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett, the Times reports.

 

The bill that Senate Republicans put on the floor this week was much less generous than what Democrats and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who is leading negotiations for the White House, have been discussing. The $500 billion covers funding for expanded unemployment insurance, school reopenings, and coronavirus testing — but does not include another round of stimulus checks or state and local support. McConnell also scheduled a Tuesday vote on a measure aimed at bolstering the Paycheck Protection Program — which is intended to help small businesses. (That vote failed as well.)

 

Republicans used Wednesday’s vote mainly to prove a point — much like they did with a previous September vote on a “skinny” stimulus package. Ahead of November’s elections, this vote will give vulnerable lawmakers something to point toward as evidence that the GOP is focused on helping people weather the ongoing economic devastation of the pandemic, despite the party’s ongoing refusals to consider the broad stimulus packages that have been passed by Democrats in the House of Representatives.

 

 

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1 hour ago, knapplc said:

The $500 billion covers funding for expanded unemployment insurance, school reopenings, and coronavirus testing — but does not include another round of stimulus checks or state and local support.

 

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

McConnell also scheduled a Tuesday vote on a measure aimed at bolstering the Paycheck Protection Program — which is intended to help small businesses. (That vote failed as well.)

Why is this a sham exactly.  
 

 

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Just now, Archy1221 said:

Gotcha.  A link to your thoughts.   The Senate tried to get money where it’s needed and Schumer and the Democrats votes no.  Full stop. 

 

Reading is fundamental. You wouldn't have had to ask the question if you had read what people are saying.

 

It's undeniable that Pelosi & Mnuchin are currently negotiating. Moscow Mitch's bill is in bad faith during those negotiations. 

 

Full stop. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

Reading is fundamental. You wouldn't have had to ask the question if you had read what people are saying.

 

It's undeniable that Pelosi & Mnuchin are currently negotiating. Moscow Mitch's bill is in bad faith during those negotiations. 

 

Full stop. 

 

 

Just cause @knapplc  says it’s a sham doesn’t actually make it a sham.  Do I have to read it a certain way in order for it to not be your opinion?  Maybe I was fundamental enough when reading the words ya linked to. 
 

it’s undeniable that McConnell put a Covid bill on the floor for $500 billion in relief and the Democrats did not want that relief to move forward and voted no.  
 

Full stop. 

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1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

it’s undeniable that McConnell put a Covid bill on the floor for $500 billion in relief and the Democrats did not want that relief to move forward and voted no.  

 

Now draw a timeline of Moscow Mitch's sham bill and the Pelosi/Mnuchin negotiations. See if there's an overlap.

 

Go ahead. We'll wait for you to catch up. 

 

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3 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Now draw a timeline of Moscow Mitch's sham bill and the Pelosi/Mnuchin negotiations. See if there's an overlap.

 

Go ahead. We'll wait for you to catch up. 

 

I’m fine right where I’m at.  Democrats actively chose to vote no on Covid relief.  

 

 

it’s undeniable that McConnell put a Covid bill on the floor for $500 billion in relief and the Democrats did not want that relief to move forward and voted no.  

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