Progressive politics and where they go from here

[Landlord]

I know in my small town school (450 people) the new teachers getting hired were getting paid way more than the older teachers who had been there a long time and were local.

[RedDenver]

 

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[Moiraine]

Maybe where progressive politics goes from here is everyone, including progressives, who is labelled as Antifa goes to jail or gets gassed. Probably the latter since the jails are so full.

[RedDenver]

 

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[Danny Bateman]

2 hours ago, RedDenver said:

 

 

This is necessary, IMO.

 

We can't just send people off to Washington and expect them to keep their promises and do what's best for us.

 

Biden should face lots of grassroots pressure. Holding his feet t the fire is the only way to actually make our needs known and get a chance at the things we want.

 

Biden's going to get things wrong. It's only a good thing to have people steer him back towards what's right.

[teachercd]

On 5/14/2020 at 12:29 PM, Landlord said:

I know in my small town school (450 people) the new teachers getting hired were getting paid way more than the older teachers who had been there a long time and were local.

No

 

There is a salary ladder...Your first year, every teacher makes the same, second year the same, third year, the same.  Then the amount of you education you have will up your salary.  So a teacher with 5 years in and a Masters will make more than a teacher with just 5 years in.

 

But new teachers (in their first year) are at the bottom of the ladder.  NOW...you might mean new teachers to the district BUT with a lot of experience, in which case, they might be new to you...but have 15 years experience and make more than a teacher who has been at your school for 9 years. 

[Landlord]

3 hours ago, teachercd said:

No

 

There is a salary ladder...Your first year, every teacher makes the same, second year the same, third year, the same.  Then the amount of you education you have will up your salary.  So a teacher with 5 years in and a Masters will make more than a teacher with just 5 years in.

 

But new teachers (in their first year) are at the bottom of the ladder.  NOW...you might mean new teachers to the district BUT with a lot of experience, in which case, they might be new to you...but have 15 years experience and make more than a teacher who has been at your school for 9 years. 

 

 

Nah our new science teacher who was under the age of 30 was making way more than the 65+ year old hag who'd been there decades.

[funhusker]

4 hours ago, Landlord said:

 

 

Nah our new science teacher who was under the age of 30 was making way more than the 65+ year old hag who'd been there decades.

It also factors in education.  The new science teacher probably had at least one Masters, if not 2.  The older probably didn’t have anything past a Bachelors. Or you just didn’t realize the older made a lot more, she just didn’t spend it like crazy.

 

 @teachercd is 100% correct. At least for Public schools in Nebraska. Salary schedules are public, you could look up your district’s.
 

https://www.nsea.org/sites/default/files/content_images/19PAGEall_6.pdf

 

 

[teachercd]

3 hours ago, funhusker said:

It also factors in education.  The new science teacher probably had at least one Masters, if not 2.  The older probably didn’t have anything past a Bachelors. Or you just didn’t realize the older made a lot more, she just didn’t spend it like crazy.

 

 @teachercd is 100% correct. At least for Public schools in Nebraska. Salary schedules are public, you could look up your district’s.
 

https://www.nsea.org/sites/default/files/content_images/19PAGEall_6.pdf

 

 

Ha...I love that site!

 

I mean, back in the day, when salaries were just "made up" it could have happened but that would have had to have been at a small school, maybe private, and probably back in the 50's?

 

With that said, some places are going to merit pay.  Prep does that now...so a first year AP Cal teacher with a masters in math is going to make more than a PE teacher with 5 years in...but that is few and far between and pretty new.

 

Shoot, about 15 years ago there was a kindergarten teacher in Plattsmouth that was making like 100K, she was in her 50th year of teaching or something like that.  Just kept getting a bump up on the old ladder each year.