RedDenver Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Archy1221 said: I don’t understand how this is legal to confiscate someone’s cash when they aren’t charged with a crime. Strong agree. Civil asset forfeiture is simply theft by the police and government. 1 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 This is a police officer I feel sorry for. She clearly didn't mean to shoot a guy she was trying to stop from fleeing. 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: This is a police officer I feel sorry for. She clearly didn't mean to shoot a guy she was trying to stop from fleeing. I'm not sure I'm with you on this one BRB - she was an experienced officer, who was wearing her gun and her taser on two different hips. Help me understand ... 1 Link to comment
funhusker Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: This is a police officer I feel sorry for. She clearly didn't mean to shoot a guy she was trying to stop from fleeing. I'm sure most drunk drivers don't plan on killing families in car accidents. Poor choices lead to s#!tty consequences. If you have the authority to hold tools that are capable of killing people, you'd better be damn sure you don't screw it up. While I do "feel sorry" for her, I think it is important to hold her accountable. Otherwise, it could open up a can of worms where policing isn't held to high standards and could lead to even more "malicious" deaths with the defense of "oh, well I didn't mean to do it...." 4 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, funhusker said: I'm sure most drunk drivers don't plan on killing families in car accidents. Poor choices lead to s#!tty consequences. If you have the authority to hold tools that are capable of killing people, you'd better be damn sure you don't screw it up. While I do "feel sorry" for her, I think it is important to hold her accountable. Otherwise, it could open up a can of worms where policing isn't held to high standards and could lead to even more "malicious" deaths with the defense of "oh, well I didn't mean to do it...." Far better said than I did above - Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, funhusker said: I'm sure most drunk drivers don't plan on killing families in car accidents. Poor choices lead to s#!tty consequences. If you have the authority to hold tools that are capable of killing people, you'd better be damn sure you don't screw it up. While I do "feel sorry" for her, I think it is important to hold her accountable. Otherwise, it could open up a can of worms where policing isn't held to high standards and could lead to even more "malicious" deaths with the defense of "oh, well I didn't mean to do it...." I didn't say she doesn't deserve some liability in this. But, a drunk driver isn't doing that in the line of their job making split second decisions. It's a very bad situation for everyone involved. The first mistake was the guy trying to escape and it was her job to be in that situation to stop him. She made a mistake that wasn't intentional. In my mind, this is very very different than other police shootings that we have seen. 2 Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I didn't say she doesn't deserve some liability in this. But, a drunk driver isn't doing that in the line of their job making split second decisions. It's a very bad situation for everyone involved. The first mistake was the guy trying to escape and it was her job to be in that situation to stop him. She made a mistake that wasn't intentional. In my mind, this is very very different than other police shootings that we have seen. It's definitely different to some degree, but I don't know how much. Even the most egregious police killings have enough plausibility that the cop didn't truly intend or mean to kill the person. I do share sympathy for the officer but also think that's the responsibility you voluntarily signed up for. 2 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 This is more applicable to prison reform but going to put it in this thread. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Gee....wonder what he was doing with the cash and vehicles. Link to comment
sho Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: Gee....wonder what he was doing with the cash and vehicles. Hookers and blow 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Well, that's one way to "build" trust: Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, RedDenver said: Well, that's one way to "build" trust: Maybe don’t have a warrant out for your arrest 2 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Maybe don’t have a warrant out for your arrest Doesn't change anything with respect to "building" trust point I was making. The city literally asked the police not to be there to promote more open dialogue about the new police chief. But arresting someone for peaceful protests, especially protests against the police, certainly make this look extremely bad for the police: 2 Link to comment
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