knapplc Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Edited the title. Warren may not have made the decision, but he's the face of this PR nightmare. Every time he gets an interview he makes this worse. Original OP is after the line, saved for posterity Is Kevin Warren being scapegoated? Kevin Warren announced the league's decision not to play football this Fall, and then bit it HARD in the Dave Revsine interview where he offered no specifics in several rambling non-answers. But he didn't make the decision - he's just the face of the conference, and therefore the spokesman. The Presidents & Chancellors made the decision. Warren can't dictate to them what they do, that's not his role. So why is everyone piling on Kevin Warren? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mavric said: Penn State's Athletic Director is a woman. Mr. Travis may want to reissue that tweet. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Omaha fan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Very telling, they can’t even tell the truth about a vote being taken or not. how on gods green earth could an ad say he/she/it didn’t know whether a vote was taken or not???? What a joke So Delaney was paid millions to be a ballot counter and not a leader? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, knapplc said: Kevin Warren announced the league's decision not to play football this Fall, and then bit it HARD in the Dave Revsine interview where he offered no specifics in several rambling non-answers. But he didn't make the decision - he's just the face of the conference, and therefore the spokesman. The Presidents & Chancellors made the decision. Warren can't dictate to them what they do, that's not his role. So why is everyone piling on Kevin Warren? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I call bulls#!t 1 2 Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Picture the scenario where the all of the Big 10 Presidents and chancellors had no say at all or didn't vote at all and instead sat back and left it up to one guy to decide the fait of the 2020 season. I'm not. 2 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedSavage said: I call bulls#!t What @suh_fan93 said. First-year Commissioner is going to tell these blue-blood schools what they can do without them having a vote? That's hugely unlikely. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, knapplc said: What @suh_fan93 said. First-year Commissioner is going to tell these blue-blood schools what they can do without them having a vote? That's hugely unlikely. I don't disagree but what, the schools are lying? They are just saying they wanted to play when they actually voted otherwise? Something is amiss and the truth probably lies somewhere in between. 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, RedSavage said: I don't disagree but what, the schools are lying? They are just saying they wanted to play when they actually voted otherwise? Something is amiss and the truth probably lies somewhere in between. Which schools haven't come out publicly saying they wanted to play? Those would likely be the ones who voted against it. 1 Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, knapplc said: Which schools haven't come out publicly saying they wanted to play? Those would likely be the ones who voted against it. I'm talking more about the decision that was made to cancel the season. If most the schools were in favor and it was ultimately their decision, why was the season cancelled? Also, wasn't Penn State supposedly one of the schools that wanted to play? Quote Link to comment
C-4 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 For what, specifically, are you proposing he's being scapegoated? Quote Link to comment
Omaha fan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Again, a league commissioner doesn’t give his opinion? He’s not a thought leader? He doesn’t look at studies or communicate with other conferences on what they are doing and how they are doing it? He isn’t in contact with the NCAA on this or commissioning studies? no? So all the real heavy lifting is On the individual schools. So our league commissioner are like those 90 year old people at The election booths in November who have nothing better to do and count ballots? I’m guessing we could get one of thosd old geysers for a lot less than $2,000,000 plus per year 2 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Decked Posted August 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2020 A few years ago (in my college days) I thought our fraternity was the worst run organization I’ve ever encountered. I was wrong. 2 12 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, RedSavage said: I'm talking more about the decision that was made to cancel the season. If most the schools were in favor and it was ultimately their decision, why was the season cancelled? Also, wasn't Penn State supposedly one of the schools that wanted to play? Yeah, of course that's what we're talking about. That's not Warren's call, that's the call of the heads of those institutions. Apparently most schools were not in favor of playing. Those who weren't were probably Northwestern, Rutgers, Illinois, Minnesota - all schools who haven't publicly stated their desire to play this Fall. And note the carefully worded statement. Penn State's AD just said her President hasn't told her if there was a vote. Note she did not say "there was no vote." That probably speaks more to the (lack of) communication than anything - or just providing a thin layer of deniability. 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Omaha fan said: Again, a league commissioner doesn’t give his opinion? He’s not a thought leader? He doesn’t look at studies or communicate with other conferences on what they are doing and how they are doing it? He isn’t in contact with the NCAA on this or commissioning studies? no? So all the real heavy lifting is On the individual schools. So our league commissioner are like those 90 year old people at The election booths in November who have nothing better to do and count ballots? we could get one of them for a lot less than $2,000,000 plus per year Warren does give his opinion. He said as much. But he doesn't make the call. There's zero chance an institution like Northwestern or Rutgers is going to do whatever Warren tells them to do when they're the ones who will be liable for the lawsuits that come from playing. 1 Quote Link to comment
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