BigRedBuster Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said: Just taking notes on what you're saying: *BRB says he doesn't come on here calling people brainwashed *BRB claims I'm the only one who calls people brainwashed *BRB calls me brainwashed Taking notes. ACH comes on here claiming others are brainwashed. Someone points out that ACH has obviously been consuming media that has affected his views. ACH would rather talk about others. Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, knapplc said: You know very well that's not what she's doing. Are we really pretending that "call to arms" is not a common phrase? I have no idea what she intended, but I did know that there were a few here that would defend her statement. A call to arms means prepare for confrontation. A compelling plea to fight. Arms refers to weaponry. I see on the intereebs that lots of people see this as inappropriate. 2 1 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, RedDenver said: The phrase "a call to arms" is not by itself a call to violence although it can be. The phrase means to call to action to confront something together. https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/call-to-arms https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/call-to-arms Whether it's a call for violence is based on the context around the phrase. Two meanings according to the dictionary https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/call to arms 2 Link to comment
funhusker Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DevoHusker said: Two meanings according to the dictionary https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/call to arms I'd be okay with Twitter suspending her account or taking the post down. At best, the Tweet is "not helpful". But Americans don't appear to want social media to silence calls to violence. I've just finally accepted I'm just along for the ride... 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: I have no idea what she intended, but I did know that there were a few here that would defend her statement. A call to arms means prepare for confrontation. A compelling plea to fight. Arms refers to weaponry. I see on the intereebs that lots of people see this as inappropriate. No. Please. This is embarrassing. Link to comment
admo Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DevoHusker said: Two meanings according to the dictionary https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/call to arms Definition of call to arms (from the link) 1 : a summons to engage in active hostilities 2 : a summons, invitation, or appeal to undertake a particular course of action Edited May 10, 2022 by admo Edited because the 1st definition was in bold, and the 2nd defintion was not. Now we can see that neither are bolded. 2 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, DevoHusker said: Two meanings according to the dictionary https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/call to arms Yes, that's exactly my point. 17 minutes ago, admo said: Definition of call to arms (from the link) 1 : a summons to engage in active hostilities 2 : a summons, invitation, or appeal to undertake a particular course of action Yeah, it's why I said you need to consider the context since the phrase can have multiple meanings. Notice that the second definition you didn't bold doesn't suggest violence. 1 Link to comment
RedDenver Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, ActualCornHusker said: Then I guess you won't mind applying the benefit-of-the-doubt precedent to your favorite cheeto either when he says "We've gotta fight like hell", especially when he explicitly instructs people to remain peaceful... K, cool. It's not really about benefit of the doubt but rather the context of what else was said. I agree that "gotta fight like hell" by itself is pretty innocuous but taken in context with the other things Trump said helps to clarify the meaning and intent. It's certainly a gray area where not everyone is going to agree. 1 1 Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Yes, that's exactly my point. Yeah, it's why I said you need to consider the context since the phrase can have multiple meanings. Notice that the second definition you didn't bold doesn't suggest violence. The first definition doesn't inherently imply violence either. Link to comment
admo Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, RedDenver said: Yes, that's exactly my point. Yeah, it's why I said you need to consider the context since the phrase can have multiple meanings. Notice that the second definition you didn't bold doesn't suggest violence. Thanks. 2 meanings for a phrase can confuse some people. Wasn't sure why Devo was getting negative push back, so I checked definitions from the link and posted for all. I will go back and un-highlight the 1st definition. 2 Link to comment
DevoHusker Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, knapplc said: No. Please. This is embarrassing. Embarrassing? You're right, in that I would be embarrassed to defend something like this being posted online by the Mayor of our 3rd largest city. 1 hour ago, funhusker said: I'd be okay with Twitter suspending her account or taking the post down. At best, the Tweet is "not helpful". But Americans don't appear to want social media to silence calls to violence. I've just finally accepted I'm just along for the ride... I am in your camp. 2 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, DevoHusker said: Embarrassing? You're right, in that I would be embarrassed to defend something like this being posted online by the Mayor of our 3rd largest city. Yes. This is embarrassing for anyone thinking this is an act of aggression. Link to comment
nic Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 4:41 PM, DevoHusker said: Embarrassing? You're right, in that I would be embarrassed to defend something like this being posted online by the Mayor of our 3rd largest city. I am in your camp. C'mon folks. Cut her some slack. She was actually thinking about how bad the crime is in her city, and how underfunded the police are, that ordinary citizens should arm themselves. she has hard time keeping her topics staight, like Joe. 1 Link to comment
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