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7 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

It's a stone-cold fact that Russia, at the instigation of Vladimir Putin, maintained a concerted social media disinformation and disruption campaign to the benefit of Donald Trump in the 2016

I know..something like $200,000 in Facebook ads.   It was really something to behold. 

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10 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

There are 17 different U.S. intelligence agencies -- zero of them known as liberal lapdogs -- who unanimously concluded that Russia had intervened in the U.S. election on behalf of Donald Trump. They never claimed it swung the election or proved collusion.

Has there been a US presidential election in the past 30 years that a foreign power hasn’t tried to meddle with?  maybe the point of meddling is to just…….meddle and murky the waters.   I see no mention from you that China meddled a bit for HRC in 2016.  Iran and China for TFI in 2022?   None of the “meddling” makes a bit of difference in the actual election though.   You know what did?  HRC not visiting critical swing states.   Donald Trump not acknowledging Covid the appropriate way and dismissing it too much.  
 

And your last sentence is about the only thing in your post worth writing.  
 

 

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16 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

found criminal involvement among Trump's inner circle and sent the lying a$$h@!es to jail.

What were the 2016 Russia election related events they were convicted of again?  Tax evasion on taxi medallions….what, were they Russian taxi’s:) 

 

Tax evasion on events that happened years prior to 2016?? Ok. 

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17 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Has there been a US presidential election in the past 30 years that a foreign power hasn’t tried to meddle with?  maybe the point of meddling is to just…….meddle and murky the waters.   I see no mention from you that China meddled a bit for HRC in 2016.  Iran and China for TFI in 2022?   None of the “meddling” makes a bit of difference in the actual election though.   You know what did?  HRC not visiting critical swing states.   Donald Trump not acknowledging Covid the appropriate way and dismissing it too much.  
 

And your last sentence is about the only thing in your post worth writing.  
 

 

 

How about the subsequent words you left off that I specifically chose in anticipation of your response?

 

They never claimed it swung the election or proved collusion. Just that it happened and was worth monitoring. It's a stone-cold fact that Donald Trump stood next to Vladimir Putin and told the world he believed Putin over his entire U.S. intelligence community. Then he led American in a direction that largely delighted Putin. 

 

That's still the the headline here. 

 

Rachel Maddow went down a rabbit hole of Russian conspiracy theories and Democrats licked their chops that proof of collusion and/or pee tapes were inevitable, and they deservedly look foolish now. We can talk about America's intervention in other people's elections, how homegrown social media bots and hackers were doing the same thing as Russia, and how Hillary Clinton should bear the brunt of her election loss regardless of Putin's troll farms. We can talk about the Biden family and Ukraine if you want. 

 

We can also talk about how the Russia investigations -- far from revealing nothing -- found criminal involvement among Trump's inner circle and sent the lying a$$h@!es to jail.

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18 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

What were the 2016 Russia election related events they were convicted of again?  Tax evasion on taxi medallions….what, were they Russian taxi’s:) 

 

Tax evasion on events that happened years prior to 2016?? Ok. 

 

So the premise of your argument is that if Trump and friends Russian misadventures did not involve collusion in the 2016 Election, they don't count?

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

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54 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

So the premise of your argument is that if Trump and friends Russian misadventures did not involve collusion in the 2016 Election, they don't count?

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

The premise is that Mueller was able to indict people on things that fell outside of the Trump/Russia hoax.   Lying, tax evasion, and past Ukrainian business deals.   None of which are good, and none of which are related to the lies started by HRC and told by Dems for 2 plus years about the Trump campaign and Russia. 

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Did you actually read the article Nic?  (First off I should say, excellent source!)

 

The article talks about how the community is struggling to support her new venture due to her anti-trans comments over the last few years.  Nothing about banning, just a discussion on how something that many loved as younger people, something that they hold onto today with their books as prized possessions and fond memories that something they loved so much feels different to support today knowing how she feels, and what she has said publicly.  

 

It's just like how many catholics struggle to support and stay in the church since all the molestation and money hiding was disclosed.  

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