knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Then imagine Virginia Department of Education recommends CRT as a best practice….I mean you can believe people like below or believe the Virginia Department of Education. Funny story. This lie is being promoted by the very dude in the post you're quoting who literally said they were going to lie about it. And guess what - he's lying about it. They are not teaching CRT in school. Further, it's not the evil thing right-wingers want you to believe - that's the dog whistle that you're responding to and promoting. CRT is not what Republicans are branding it to be. It's not being taught to K-12 schoolchildren. Just stop. 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The anti-CRT argument has more holes than a sieve. But here we are, debating it on this here forum because A) some people can't understand what it is or how it is (or isn't) being applied, or B) they know full well it's a right-wing lie, and they're invested in promoting it. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, knapplc said: Funny story. This lie is being promoted by the very dude in the post you're quoting who literally said they were going to lie about it. And guess what - he's lying about it. They are not teaching CRT in school. Further, it's not the evil thing right-wingers want you to believe - that's the dog whistle that you're responding to and promoting. CRT is not what Republicans are branding it to be. It's not being taught to K-12 schoolchildren. Just stop. I noticed you skipped over the Virginia Board of Education piece. Conveniently I suppose. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: I noticed you skipped over the Virginia Board of Education piece. Conveniently I suppose. What does the Virginia Board of Education say about Critical Race Theory? Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, knapplc said: What does the Virginia Board of Education say about Critical Race Theory? It’s already been posted 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Archy1221 said: It’s already been posted No, it hasn't. The Virginia Board of Education does not recommend teaching CRT to students. Try again. Further, show us which schools in the Virginia education system have gone rogue from the BoE and are teaching an obscure college-level law course to their students. When you can't, you don't have to admit that this is all a dog whistle. We already know. Because your dude already told us what the right-wing CRT froth is about. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, knapplc said: eaching an obscure college-level law course to their students. Your being obtuse, as I haven’t seen people suggesting they are teaching the actual course to kids. You know this also, so it’s strange you keep repeating it. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 13 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Reposted as requested. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Archy1221 said: Reposted as requested. That doesn't say CRT is being taught in Virginia. And it's literally in a tweet by the guy who told us he's going to lie about CRT to froth up the right. Try again. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Your being obtuse, as I haven’t seen people suggesting they are teaching the actual course to kids. You know this also, so it’s strange you keep repeating it. Of course you have. @nic has posted several videos where right-wing crisis actors are making that exact claim. But, to recap: CRT - BAD!!! FROTHFROTHFROTHFROTH!!! GRRR!!!! CRT - Mentioned as a reference in one state's BoE website. GRRRR!!!! FROTH!!! CRT - Not actually being taught in schools. grr...? Thanks for showing us how non this non-issue is. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, knapplc said: Of course you have. @nic has posted several videos where right-wing crisis actors are making that exact claim. But, to recap: CRT - BAD!!! FROTHFROTHFROTHFROTH!!! GRRR!!!! CRT - Mentioned as a reference in one state's BoE website. GRRRR!!!! FROTH!!! CRT - Not actually being taught in schools. grr...? Thanks for showing us how non this non-issue is. 1 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, knapplc said: And it's literally in a tweet by the guy who told us he's going to lie about CRT to froth up the right Literally using the Board of Education as a reference, but I guess we should look past that. 1 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Archy1221 said: Agreed! It's been a heck of a ride with you right-wingers over this. What's next on the frothy agenda? Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Archy1221 said: Literally using the Board of Education as a reference, but I guess we should look past that. Which is not relevant, because, as you said, CRT is not being taught to children. Link to comment
Lorewarn Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: Your being obtuse This coming from the guy who interpreted honest questions, looking for info, as arguments to shut down. 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Should race and racism never be discussed in education? If not, why not? If it should be allowed, how should it be discussed? Also, how is this policed? If it shouldn't be discussed, should a teacher be reprimanded any time they even bring up the subject?'''' All good questions without clear answers. Care to provide any insight into how you think racism should be approached in education, or to let us know how anti-CRT leaders suggest we do this? 3 hours ago, Archy1221 said: People I know aren’t saying race or racism shouldn’t be discussed. That’s a strawman argument Oh... Well, BRB wasn't making an argument, he was asking questions. So, err, are you willing to actually talk about it instead of deflecting and defending? 2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm trying to get to the gist of the problem here. So, race and racism can be discussed in schools, but they can't call it CRT? For the people who are anti CRT, how should it be discussed? Here's another olive branch - an open door invitation to actually communicate. 2 hours ago, Archy1221 said: Who said that? N-nobody said that...again, it's another question, not an accusation, or a strawman, or an assertion. Since you didn't answer any of the questions, he's trying to help jumpstart the convo by guessing at a possible perspective, opening up an opportunity for you to do even less work and just start in the middle by saying, "No, that's not it, it's actually this..." Anyways, unfortunately still no answers or good-faith conversation to be had here. 2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: OK....then can you explain your stance on the issue. You are anti CRT....correct? You also said that race and racism can be discussed in school. Please explain. I'm not putting out an argument on this. I'm trying to figure out the stance of the anti-CRT people and how they believe all this should work. Attempt #3 at actually turning this into a worthwhile conversation. And.....you just move on ignoring it and instead focus on all the low hanging fruit of "RAH BAH IT DOESNT SAY THAT RAH BAH YES IT DOES GRAHH W:JARHAH" 2 Link to comment
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