Lorewarn Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Hopefully cooler heads will prevail in Kenosha tonight. Glad my buddy moved away from there. Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, knapplc said: Or as Democrat, Libertarian, maybe even Green Party. Possibly go the Perot route too. 3 1 Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, teachercd said: I only saw a 30 second clip of the trial where they showed the dude that got shot in the arm, pulling a guy at the dude on the ground. That looked like self defense to me. Actually it looked like to morons with guys trying to play cowboy. I did not see any of the other shootings. What do you guys think about this? Rittenhouse is an absolute tool, but self defense was the right call. 3 1 Link to comment
nic Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Agreed. It’s probably the right verdict. If he didn’t break the law and you think he should be guilty I guess it’s time to change the law or the prosecution sucked. I hope Kenosha doesn’t burn over the weekend. Not sure what kind of parent let’s a kid go into a riot zone with an AR. I am surprised a kid is brave enough to do so without a posse. Crazy crap. He Shouldn’t have been there in the first place. 2 Link to comment
nic Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I still can’t believe we went through 4 years of this crap plus an impeachment. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics/steele-dossier-reckoning/index.html Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, nic said: I still can’t believe we went through 4 years of this crap plus an impeachment. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics/steele-dossier-reckoning/index.html Why do you keep harping on that irrelevant document? Elements of it have been independently verified. This seems more like an agenda than anything at this point. 3 Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 What elements have been verified that are relevant to anything? And it was THE CENTRAL document to get FISA warrants. It seems like someone has an agenda to know claim the Steele Dossier doesn’t mean anything to know that’s it’s officially debunked (though the smart ones knew this long ago) 3 Link to comment
Fru Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 After seeing some of the buffoonery of the prosecution, it was evident that it was going to end this way. I thought they might get him on the reckless endangerment charge though. Do I understand the rationale for the verdict? Yes. Do I have trouble with it because Kyle willingly inserted himself into the situation by needlessly running around a riotous situation with a weapon? Also yes. I keep coming back to these thoughts… If Kyle stays home and plays video games that night, no one gets shot by him, and he’s not on trial. If Kyle goes to Kenosha to help clean or whatever, but without a weapon, does he get accosted for being perceived as a threat or a mass shooter? Probably not. Kyle’s choices led to this and to not see him bear any semblance of responsibility is deeply troubling. 3 1 Link to comment
nic Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, knapplc said: Why do you keep harping on that irrelevant document? Elements of it have been independently verified. This seems more like an agenda than anything at this point. Only because it started a four year fiasco and subsequent 24/7 media coverage mostly by MSNBC talking heads. Thus it belongs in media bias. 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, nic said: Only because it started a four year fiasco and subsequent 24/7 media coverage mostly by MSNBC talking heads. Thus it belongs in media bias. And because Republicans like to conflate the dossier's failings with TFG innocence. 1 Link to comment
nic Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Fru said: After seeing some of the buffoonery of the prosecution, it was evident that it was going to end this way. I thought they might get him on the reckless endangerment charge though. Do I understand the rationale for the verdict? Yes. Do I have trouble with it because Kyle willingly inserted himself into the situation by needlessly running around a riotous situation with a weapon? Also yes. I keep coming back to these thoughts… If Kyle stays home and plays video games that night, no one gets shot by him, and he’s not on trial. If Kyle goes to Kenosha to help clean or whatever, but without a weapon, does he get accosted for being perceived as a threat or a mass shooter? Probably not. Kyle’s choices led to this and to not see him bear any semblance of responsibility is deeply troubling. Agreed. Except he should have cleaned up the next day. I have seen videos of other unarmed people trying to extinguish fires during the riots and they still got harassed. Leave the fire fighting to the professionals. Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 If Kyle was black and merely strapped that weapon on, he would have been shot dead by police in that given situation. I mean, they shoot black 12 year olds with toy guns. If merely arrested, Black Rittenhouse would be the poster boy for a right wing chorus about the violent unhinged Left and demanding the harshest sentence possible. There is no nuance in this verdict, no appropriately-measured consequence. It's a white supremacist wet dream. And that f#&%ing judge. Jesus H. Christ......... And now comes the plea for outraged people to stay cool. Then again, apparently it's okay to bring an AR-15 to a tense mob scene to deliver "protection" however you see fit. Should be fun. 3 1 2 Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Fru said: After seeing some of the buffoonery of the prosecution, it was evident that it was going to end this way. I thought they might get him on the reckless endangerment charge though. Do I understand the rationale for the verdict? Yes. Do I have trouble with it because Kyle willingly inserted himself into the situation by needlessly running around a riotous situation with a weapon? Also yes. I keep coming back to these thoughts… If Kyle stays home and plays video games that night, no one gets shot by him, and he’s not on trial. If Kyle goes to Kenosha to help clean or whatever, but without a weapon, does he get accosted for being perceived as a threat or a mass shooter? Probably not. Kyle’s choices led to this and to not see him bear any semblance of responsibility is deeply troubling. I agree with the idea that him and all those dorks should have just stayed home. 2 Link to comment
knapplc Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Then again, apparently it's okay to bring an AR-15 to a tense mob scene to deliver "protection" however you see fit. Should be fun. It'll be interesting how the police react moving forward depending on who has the guns. Link to comment
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