Toe Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 @Hilltop The thing is, we've had other good receiving options in guys like Wandale and Spielman. The problem is that we haven't had a legit deep threat guy at the X receiver spot since Stanley Morgan left. No deep threat for defenses to worry about = short passes and runs get easier for the D to handle. Get that taken care of, and everything else opens up more. Manning is exactly the puzzle piece that this offense has been missing the last two seasons. @Mavric Even just as a passer, I wouldn't say Lee was significantly better than Armstrong. Lee threw twice as many picks in 2017 as Armstrong did in the previous season. Even accounting for the difference in attempts, that's pretty awful. Lee's completion percentage wasn't THAT much better (57.5 vs 51.4), and efficiency was about even (129 vs 124). 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, Toe said: @Mavric Even just as a passer, I wouldn't say Lee was significantly better than Armstrong. Lee threw twice as many picks in 2017 as Armstrong did in the previous season. Even accounting for the difference in attempts, that's pretty awful. Lee's completion percentage wasn't THAT much better (57.5 vs 51.4), and efficiency was about even (129 vs 124). Eh, I'm not a Tanner Lee apologist by any means. But TA was a horrific passer. Lee was a bad decision-maker but a decent thrower. Not that that distinction made much of a difference helping us win games but Lee at least had potential to throw. TA didn't have either. TA's 51.4 completion percentage was good enough to place us #122 in the nation in that category that year. Lee's 57.5 wasn't great but at #77 in the nation we were at least ahead of a third of the teams instead of only six teams (including two service academies). So I would say that is a pretty noticeable difference. TA was better at protecting the ball his senior year but he threw the same 16 picks his junior year that Lee threw his senior year on half as many attempts. And both their INT rates at Nebraska were basically the same. 1 Quote Link to comment
runningblind Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Toe said: @Hilltop The thing is, we've had other good receiving options in guys like Wandale and Spielman. The problem is that we haven't had a legit deep threat guy at the X receiver spot since Stanley Morgan left. No deep threat for defenses to worry about = short passes and runs get easier for the D to handle. Get that taken care of, and everything else opens up more. Manning is exactly the puzzle piece that this offense has been missing the last two seasons. @Mavric Even just as a passer, I wouldn't say Lee was significantly better than Armstrong. Lee threw twice as many picks in 2017 as Armstrong did in the previous season. Even accounting for the difference in attempts, that's pretty awful. Lee's completion percentage wasn't THAT much better (57.5 vs 51.4), and efficiency was about even (129 vs 124). 8 hours ago, Mavric said: Eh, I'm not a Tanner Lee apologist by any means. But TA was a horrific passer. Lee was a bad decision-maker but a decent thrower. Not that that distinction made much of a difference helping us win games but Lee at least had potential to throw. TA didn't have either. TA's 51.4 completion percentage was good enough to place us #122 in the nation in that category that year. Lee's 57.5 wasn't great but at #77 in the nation we were at least ahead of a third of the teams instead of only six teams (including two service academies). So I would say that is a pretty noticeable difference. TA was better at protecting the ball his senior year but he threw the same 16 picks his junior year that Lee threw his senior year on half as many attempts. And both their INT rates at Nebraska were basically the same. Can we go back to discussing whether Iowa or Nebraska have more boring landscapes instead? This is depressing. 1 Quote Link to comment
J-MAGIC Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 8:01 PM, runningblind said: Can we go back to discussing whether Iowa or Nebraska have more boring landscapes instead? This is depressing. I drove through Iowa last weekend and actually found it kind of pleasant. Nice rolling hills and the fields. Nothing is worse than Missouri. Quote Link to comment
funhusker Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, J-MAGIC said: I drove through Iowa last weekend and actually found it kind of pleasant. Nice rolling hills and the fields. Nothing is worse than Missouri. Major highways are what’s boring. NE/IA and even MO having beautiful scenery if you’re on the right roads. 4 Quote Link to comment
runningblind Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, J-MAGIC said: I drove through Iowa last weekend and actually found it kind of pleasant. Nice rolling hills and the fields. Nothing is worse than Missouri. 36 minutes ago, funhusker said: Major highways are what’s boring. NE/IA and even MO having beautiful scenery if you’re on the right roads. There are nice parts of every state. I just find it funny when folks from one state feel the need to insult the other like Iowa is akin to Southern Utah and Nebraska is to Western Montana for scenery. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, runningblind said: There are nice parts of every state. I just find it funny when folks from one state feel the need to insult the other like Iowa is akin to Southern Utah and Nebraska is to Western Montana for scenery. Being someone who grew up in Nebraska, moved to Iowa for 15 years and now back in Nebraska, I agree. There are absolutely beautiful parts of both states and I've enjoyed living in both. But, the most annoying part of the entire experience is the constant jokes people think they have to tell you about each state. Pathetic thing is that they are the exact same f#&%ing jokes. Living in Iowa....."Hey, you know what the best thing coming out of Nebraska is? I-80.....ha ha ha..." Living in Nebraska...."Hey, you know what the best thing coming out of Iowa is? I-80....ha ha ha...." Gee....never heard that one before..... 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Will Johnson be eligible this year? Quote Link to comment
RedSavage Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: Couple of other familiar names on there...Vince Marrow (screw him) and Ted Gilmore Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 when did he hurt it? End of April? Is rehab still about 6 months? Quote Link to comment
seaofred92 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I for one am just thrilled that we’ll be trotting out 3 FCS transfers, a JUCO, a few walkons, and a QB turned WR as our primary targets this fall 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Decked Posted July 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, seaofred92 said: I for one am just thrilled that we’ll be trotting out 3 FCS transfers, a JUCO, a few walkons, and a QB turned WR as our primary targets this fall Two of the FCS players are walk-ons. Probably 2nd-3rd strings at that. Omar Manning was the best JUCO WR in his class. Crazy potential. Toure could’ve gotten drafted last year. The only knock here is Oliver Martin in the lineup after having a pretty mediocre career. CTB was a high school QB guess he must suck too. You have your best player touch the ball as much as possible. Alante hasn’t even hit the field yet. This is a stupid post. 13 Quote Link to comment
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