gossamorharpy Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/15/2021 at 8:07 AM, RedDenver said: Sure, that would be fun for me as a Nebraska fan. But I used to watch as many of the bowl games as I could under the old system and as much of the regular season as I could. I rarely watch regular season games in sports with big playoffs at the end because the stakes just don't really matter all that much. And I now barely watch college football games other than Nebraska. I watch a few bowl games but rarely watch the playoffs because I haven't followed the teams during the season and generally don't care who wins. I think overall the old bowl system was better for the sport as a whole. The playoff just attempts to limit the debate over who was best that year but doesn't really add anything IMO. Curious what you define as old system in terms of year or era. IMO, the bowl system has been so incredibly watered down going back to like 15 years ago where now there are just too many and the couple few good matchups are lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by the playoffs. I feel like bowls used to have a unique draw because it gave viewers a chance to see a team for the first time or a classic matchup was at hand. Now, with almost every single D1 school being broadcasted each week, bowl games just seem to be lackluster and lack the compelling reasons for me to tune in Quote Link to comment
RedDenver Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, gossamorharpy said: Curious what you define as old system in terms of year or era. IMO, the bowl system has been so incredibly watered down going back to like 15 years ago where now there are just too many and the couple few good matchups are lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by the playoffs. I feel like bowls used to have a unique draw because it gave viewers a chance to see a team for the first time or a classic matchup was at hand. Now, with almost every single D1 school being broadcasted each week, bowl games just seem to be lackluster and lack the compelling reasons for me to tune in I define the old system as the bowl system before the BCS and whatever the predecessor was (BCA?), so before 1992. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, Mavric said: I can't figure out who Ferentz is talking to. Was it someone in the Iowa administration? I figured it was a reporter asking him questions. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 57 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I figured it was a reporter asking him questions. I guess I don't think a reporter would be in a position to give that definite of an answer. I read it as the reporter retelling the entire exchange from Ferentz's point of view. Otherwise it would be "my" answer, not "the" answer. Ferentz asks if they go to a bowl game after losing in the quarterfinals. Someone else answers "As of right now, no". Ferentz says that sucks. That seems like it either has to be someone in the Iowa administration saying they wouldn't accept a bowl bid or someone from the NCAA saying they wouldn't be eligible. 1 Quote Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 I don't like it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said: I don't like it. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment
nic Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 11:13 PM, Notre Dame Joe said: I don't like it. Does ND join the ACC for real now? Quote Link to comment
Hilltop Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, nic said: Does ND join the ACC for real now? Not a chance - With 12 playoff spots they actually have less incentive to join. Guessing we see ND in the playoff frequently with a 12 team playoff. Here are their end of season rankings over the last 10 years- 2020 - 5th 2019 - 12th 2018 - 5th 2017 - 11th 2016 - 18th 2015 - 11th 2014 - 15th 2013 - 20th 2012 - 4th 2011 - 22nd https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/notre-dame/polls.html Making the playoff 60% of the time isn't going to push them to change anything imo. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just now, Hilltop said: Not a chance - With 12 playoff spots they actually have less incentive to join. Guessing we see ND in the playoff frequently with a 12 team playoff. Here are their end of season rankings over the last 10 years- 2020 - 5th 2019 - 12th 2018 - 5th 2017 - 11th 2016 - 18th 2015 - 11th 2014 - 15th 2013 - 20th 2012 - 4th 2011 - 22nd https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/notre-dame/polls.html Making the playoff 60% of the time isn't going to push them to change anything imo. The thing it changes is the possibility of getting a top-four seed - and thus a bye. I don't know if they will but I wouldn't rule it out, especially after they've been a half member the last couple years. Quote Link to comment
Hilltop Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mavric said: The thing it changes is the possibility of getting a top-four seed - and thus a bye. I don't know if they will but I wouldn't rule it out, especially after they've been a half member the last couple years. I'm not sure I agree that their chances are improved by joining. If ND goes undefeated, they are a top 4, regardless if they are in a conference. A one loss team in the ACC probably doesn't get a top 4 seed anytime soon. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hilltop said: I'm not sure I agree that their chances are improved by joining. If ND goes undefeated, they are a top 4, regardless if they are in a conference. A one loss team in the ACC probably doesn't get a top 4 seed anytime soon. No, they are not. You have to be a conference champion to get a Top 4 seed. At least that's the way it's proposed now. Quote Link to comment
Hilltop Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Mavric said: No, they are not. You have to be a conference champion to get a Top 4 seed. At least that's the way it's proposed now. I missed that detail - thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment
nic Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Mavric said: No, they are not. You have to be a conference champion to get a Top 4 seed. At least that's the way it's proposed now. Correct. But Hilltop made me think of another approach. How often would ND win the ACC? Maybe they should join a lesser conference (AAC) that they can win all the time. They could have a loaded out of conference slate to help the strength of schedule. Play USC, a B1G and ACC team every year. The world is their oyster. 1 Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, nic said: Correct. But Hilltop made me think of another approach. How often would ND win the ACC? Maybe they should join a lesser conference (AAC) that they can win all the time. They could have a loaded out of conference slate to help the strength of schedule. Play USC, a B1G and ACC team every year. The world is their oyster. I don't see an arrogant school like ND lowering themselves to join a conference like the ACC let alone the AAC. Quote Link to comment
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