So NU SHould Have Went Back to the Big 12?

[FrantzHardySwag]

59 minutes ago, Bledred said:

If all of the surviving power conferences are eventually going to 20+ teams, then why be stingy with KU and ISU?  Both are AAU.  KU brings a ton of eyeballs and money to the table with BB.  ISU is a rising star in football.  Our conference the Big TEN has become the biggest snob on the college athletic block and it is going to come back to bite us in the rear when all of the realignment dust settles.  Maybe this rejection gives a hint that the Big ten has their sights on bigger fish..namely PAC12 schools and wants to be the first FBS conference to go Coast to Coast. 

I don't know the answer to these questions, but are ISU and KU enough to get a bigger media deal? And if not is it worth adding two more more mouths to feed when it comes to distributing money? Are B1G schools willing to take a pay cut just to get to 16 teams? UT and OU were added because they add value. No need to add teams just to add teams right now. 

[Redux]

46 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

We will expand west before adding KU or ISU.  

 

Factz

[Redux]

3 hours ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

I don't know the answer to these questions, but are ISU and KU enough to get a bigger media deal? And if not is it worth adding two more more mouths to feed when it comes to distributing money? Are B1G schools willing to take a pay cut just to get to 16 teams? UT and OU were added because they add value. No need to add teams just to add teams right now. 

 

The answers are:

 

No

No

Hell No

 

People keep trying to reconfigure leagues based solely off geography, in a perfect world that would still be how it's done.

[BigRedBuster]

11 hours ago, admo said:

Never.

 

South Carolina was an add-on.  Vandy is private.  If you in the SEC - no way you are moving.  Nebraska could be invited, and would never leave, quickly shouting SEC SEC SEC.  No matter their W-L record.  Even if it was back in 2010.

 
In 2011 Arkansas was 11-2, and 6-2 in the SEC.  Pretty nice, right?  Absolutely.  Yet they were 3rd in their own division (West) behind LSU (#1) and Alabama (#2).  Pretty sure if OU or Texas does something like that, they will definitely be in the playoffs.  And it will happen.

We can show examples all day.  To me the SEC is great football, regardless of the south obsession and media hype.  I never miss a 2:30pm game on CBS.  But I will never miss an Army/Navy game, either.  Or Texas vs OU at the cotton bowl.  Or USC vs UCLA.  Or Notre Dame vs Southern Cal.  Michigan vs Ohio State,  TCU vs Baylor,  Florida vs Georgia,  Nebraska vs OU, Miami vs FSU, the third Saturday in October (Tennessee-Alabama), the Iron Bowl, Texas vs Texas A&M, Arkansas vs Texas or Texas A&M, Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State, Pittsburgh vs Penn State, LSU vs Auburn, etc, etc, etc. 

 

The point I am trying to make is that the SEC is solid college football week in and week out.  2:30pm games and night games especially.  Agreeable or not. We tune in to see these match ups, to see these big and fast players, with something on the line, and possible upsets.  Oklahoma and Texas will add more excitement to it.  Even if it's a game like, OU vs Missouri (both chanting SEC SEC SEC). 

Sorry PAC 12

Sorry ACC 

Sorry Big Ten 

 

Sorry Kansas and Rutgers.  One of you has basketball, at least.  The other has White Castle (mmHmmm)

 

Wait, who wants or misses Kansas again?  Said no one in the Big Ten (with the only exception being a part of our fanbase). 

 

The Big Ten will never get Notre Dame to join us.  But that hope is way better than going for an AAU Kansas, which brings only basketball aspirations.  And then having Husker fans clap and cheer after a boring, 68-10 beat down in football after a 11AM, Saturday kickoff.  I might as well bring my radio and go fishing. 

If this goes the way I think it will go, the number of people who feel the way you describe here across other parts of the country and tune in as much as you say.....will be greatly diminished.

 

I watch college football, because I love Husker football.  I might tune into those other games because for a short time to see what's going on.  But, I'm not a regular watcher of everything SEC...etc.  I assume I'm not in the minority on that.  On a football Saturday, I'll watch the Huskers.  I'll have any other game on, maybe, while I'm doing other things around the house.  But, those are usually the times I'm off doing other things I need to do.

 

If this comes down to the SEC is a 20 team conference and no other power programs are in it and Nebraska is out......I'll lose one hell of a lot of interest in watching any college football.

[Toe]

11 hours ago, CheeseHusker said:

The eastern half of Colorado might as well be Kansas.

 

Eh, eastern third or so. The part east of the Front Range.

 

8 hours ago, desertshox said:

White Castle was founded in Wichita. So Rutgers has basketball? xD

 

Wichita hasn't had White Castle since the 70s, though.

[MyBloodIsRed16]

2 hours ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

I never really feel like Texas is part of "the south". All of the other states besides OK seem much more similar to each other than Texas is to them. 

I don't really view Florida as the "south".  I know they are south but like they are their own thing.  like Georgia and Alabama are south but Florida is some sort of bastard.

 

[Micheal]

Kansas Football Big Ten Reports Swirling

 

Supposedly flights between Lawrence and Chicago, guessing that isn't totally rare. Until I hear something from an aquarium guy I don't put much into this. 

[admo]

4 hours ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Awful interesting you're poo-pooing a hypothetical 68-10 beat down after the last 5 years of Husker football. 

 

Also, sometimes you have to take what you can get. Kansas might not bring a lot for football (yet; Lance Leopold is a fantastic coach), but like you said, they'd immediately be the best team in basketball, and that's nothing to sneeze at, especially for a conference that values basketball like the Big Ten does. And, they're the most realistic option for inclusion at the moment, so they cannot be dismissed offhand. 

Yeah, it was the over-the-top Ric Flair in me lol.  I'm actually good with Kansas BB.  I do agree about Leopold turning it around for them.  I hope he does.  And if they were to join the B1G at some point, it could be fun.  I actually was super nervous about playing buffalo, until he left for KU (with assistants and some players).

[admo]

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

If this goes the way I think it will go, the number of people who feel the way you describe here across other parts of the country and tune in as much as you say.....will be greatly diminished.

 

I watch college football, because I love Husker football.  I might tune into those other games because for a short time to see what's going on.  But, I'm not a regular watcher of everything SEC...etc.  I assume I'm not in the minority on that.  On a football Saturday, I'll watch the Huskers.  I'll have any other game on, maybe, while I'm doing other things around the house.  But, those are usually the times I'm off doing other things I need to do.

 

If this comes down to the SEC is a 20 team conference and no other power programs are in it and Nebraska is out......I'll lose one hell of a lot of interest in watching any college football.

I don't want to see a 20 team SEC either.  With the addition of OU and Texas, it makes weekend games more interesting.  But, it will hurt the landscape of college football playoffs, and I'm not OK with that. 

[Guy Chamberlin]

I know it's all about money, but the game and the rooting interest would benefit if the conferences went back to some cultural and geographic identities. 

 

The Big 10 drops Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State and Nebraska. They're the Big 10 again. Worked for decades. College football's meat and potatoes.

 

The Big 8 is the Great Plains. Maybe you leave Colorado out because that would be funny. If North Dakota State thinks it's so great, let's see what they've got. 

 

Bring back the Southwest Conference!  Fold A&M back in, grab Baylor, Texas Tech and TCU. Let Texas talk all the s#!t it wants, and send their best to the playoffs. Give them Arkansas to beat up on again.  

 

The SEC is no longer a super-conference. Just a conference. A pretty good one, steeped in tradition, southern charm, and the same insufferable bragging now limited to states where moss hangs from trees. 

 

Penn State to the ACC. Maybe Rutgers and Maryland, too. I'm taking the word "Atlantic" literally here. Sue me. 

 

The Pac 12 shrinks a tick and celebrates its West Coast culture, wide-open offenses, and victim complex that nobody on the East Coast is awake to watch their games.

 

Give the Rocky Mountains some credit. Give them their own BCS conference, including an increasingly legit Utah, along with BYU and Boise State programs that keep demanding P5 respect. Maybe steal Arizona and Arizona State from the Pac 12 because they have more Mountain than they do Pacific.  Leave Colorado out because that would be funny. 

 

Notre Dame remains a free agent, whoring itself out to the highest bidder. Just like the old days. 

 

Television contracts are put into one big pot and bid on by the value of each game, encouraging better non-conference scheduling at the expense of Bethune-Cookman. 

[BigRedBuster]

5 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

I know it's all about money, but the game and the rooting interest would benefit if the conferences went back to some cultural and geographic identities. 

 

The Big 10 drops Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State and Nebraska. They're the Big 10 again. Worked for decades. College football's meat and potatoes.

 

The Big 8 is the Great Plains. Maybe you leave Colorado out because that would be funny. If North Dakota State thinks it's so great, let's see what they've got. 

 

Bring back the Southwest Conference!  Fold A&M back in, grab Baylor, Texas Tech and TCU. Let Texas talk all the s#!t it wants, and send their best to the playoffs. Give them Arkansas to beat up on again.  

 

The SEC is no longer a super-conference. Just a conference. A pretty good one, steeped in tradition, southern charm, and the same insufferable bragging now limited to states where moss hangs from trees. 

 

Penn State to the ACC. Maybe Rutgers and Maryland, too. I'm taking the word "Atlantic" literally here. Sue me. 

 

The Pac 12 shrinks a tick and celebrates its West Coast culture, wide-open offenses, and victim complex that nobody on the East Coast is awake to watch their games.

 

Give the Rocky Mountains some credit. Give them their own BCS conference, including an increasingly legit Utah, along with BYU and Boise State programs that keep demanding P5 respect. Maybe steal Arizona and Arizona State from the Pac 12 because they have more Mountain than they do Pacific.  Leave Colorado out because that would be funny. 

 

Notre Dame remains a free agent, whoring itself out to the highest bidder. Just like the old days. 

 

Television contracts are put into one big pot and bid on by the value of each game, encouraging better non-conference scheduling at the expense of Bethune-Cookman. 

In the glory days of college football, the conferences were much more equal in having a couple power programs, a few that rise up an be good for a while and then a few that struggled to compete. I'm all for in that scenario, doing what is necessary to have the ones that struggle be better and more competitive.  There was interest in the sport in all parts of the country.  

 

However, what we have now and where it's going is a disaster.

[Notre Dame Joe]

7 hours ago, internetman said:

How long until athletic departments lose tax exempt "non profit" status?

 

There is about to be a lot schools left out.. a lot of jilted lovers....

 

Are we done pretending athletic departments are here for the students interests??

How about Universities period.  You don't get to stockpile a billion or so extra dollars and pretend it isn't profit, unless you are a University.

 

3 hours ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

I never really feel like Texas is part of "the south". All of the other states besides OK seem much more similar to each other than Texas is to them. 

 

1 hour ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

I don't really view Florida as the "south".  I know they are south but like they are their own thing.  like Georgia and Alabama are south but Florida is some sort of bastard.

 

The South is defined by the Civil War.  Florida and Texas were not important enough at the time to be worth invading by the Union.  

 

The Midwestern states may have been small but they still fielded Union armies and begot a few key generals.

[Micheal]

More than anything I just would be happy with anyone from the Big 12, purely from having closer away trips. It would be nice to be able to swing down to Lawrence or Manhattan. 

[Moiraine]

What I really want to know is, has anyone commented on the grammar error yet?

[floridacorn]

1 hour ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

I don't really view Florida as the "south".  I know they are south but like they are their own thing.  like Georgia and Alabama are south but Florida is some sort of bastard.

 

 

True, but Gainsville & the surrounding area is definitely deep south