Toe Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, internetman said: the problem with KU is the football program. their facilities are third world (in todays standards). the have a stink coming off them. football makes all the money. bball is an after thought. also they do not have wrestling which I think is a requirement Didn't stop us from taking Maryland and Rutgers. 48 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: Brian Christopherson made a great point about any prior discussion of NU leaving the Big Ten for the Big 12, in that it was all tied to nostalgia about the old Big 8, and how NU dominated the end of that conference in football, as well as other thoughts on a close-knit, regional conference of 30+ years ago. That ended when the Big 8 became the Big 12. The regional conferences are now over. NU may not always like our fit in the Big Ten, but there is no going back to regional conferences. I've been linking this a lot lately, in various contexts... 2 Quote Link to comment
internetman Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, Toe said: Didn't stop us from taking Maryland and Rutgers. I've been linking this a lot lately, in various contexts... to be fair most original big10 fans would say this about UNL now. today I don't think rutgers or maryland would get the invite. Quote Link to comment
internetman Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 the rumor is that oklahoma's last straw was the 11 am kickoff with UNL. https://twitter.com/GuerinEmig/status/1418219475216728064 1 Quote Link to comment
FrantzHardySwag Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, internetman said: that could be true. my brain might be stuck in the "tv market" mindset. we need to be thinking about the amount of people that go to games and also would subscribe to a disney plus or netflix etc. to watch the games. Many people think this is where its all going. and KU hoops has a TON of fans. Best I could find (I know its a little dated), but KU brings a lot of eyeballs. Also they have the academic profile that the B1G wants. Seem like a shoo- in to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said: Best I could find (I know its a little dated), but KU brings a lot of eyeballs. Also they have the academic profile that the B1G wants. Seem like a shoo- in to me. I think KU would be attractive to the Big Ten. The Big Ten LOVES basketball, probably even more than football. KU could start a wrestling program if that is needed for the conference. Quote Link to comment
nic Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 53 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I can't believe this guy is still employed by the Big Ten. As I said...he sucks, and was not prepared for this. Delay would have had a plan....to get UConn 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 If I had it my way, Kansas and Oklahoma would've already joined the B1G. Texas can to flounder on the Independent scene or bounce to the PAC for all I care. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: I'm not a fan of Warren, but what do you expect him to say? I am sure he has already had discussions with the Big Ten Universities and Presidents about potential schools which would be attractive to pursue in the next round of conference shake-ups. My comment wasn’t about that quote. Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Another story on this https://www.kvue.com/article/sports/ncaa/ut-ou-plan-to-leave-the-big-12-sources-say/287-6d7e76c5-22fe-4faa-912f-b1c423570f15?fbclid=IwAR0yW_oftLtO-C2_qTdRMVdBcbyb4GOhOUJgWPS_RgidwSM7i4Lf-_Y4fbs Quote Early next week (Tuesday or Wednesday), both schools will jointly file a letter with the BIG 12 and say they’re not going to renew their media rights, sources say. Multiple sources confirmed to WFAA that the University of Texas and Oklahoma's break from the BIG 12 is imminent, and we now know at least some of the timing involved in their bid to jump to the SEC. Early next week (Tuesday or Wednesday), both schools will jointly file a letter with the BIG 12 and say they’re not going to renew their media rights. Then it's up to both schools to go to the SEC to apply for acceptance -- and then it's up to the SEC to decide what it wants to do. After Texas and OU tell the BIG 12 they will not renew their media/television rights with the BIG 12, nothing happens until the end of 2025. Both universities will stay and play in the BIG 12. After the end of 2025, they will begin in their new conference (providing they are accepted). As for why a pair of schools that are clearly at the top of the pecking order would make a move, simply follow the money. The BIG 12 TV contracts expire in 2025. A move to the SEC would ensure millions more for each school on an annual basis. And for the SEC, Texas and OU's 117-year old rivalry would certainly be attractive, and it would also make the SEC the first 16-team mega league, and a model for the future of college football. Texas and OU will lose money if they stay in the BIG 12. As a package deal, Texas and OU are more attractive than individually. Both schools attempted to dismiss earlier reporting on this as a rumor. Insiders say that UT Board Chairman Kevin Eltife has long been concerned about the everchanging landscape of collegiate athletics and has worked with the university administration to position the Texas Longhorns for success in the coming era. Meanwhile, Texas A&M’s athletics director says they’d like to remain the only Texas team in the SEC. There are obstacles that could stand in the way. Could the issue become political and have someone like Gov. Greg Abbott get involved? What’s to happen to the rest of the BIG 12, with schools like TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech? Those are all answers that could come in short order after Texas and Oklahoma make this stunning move in just six days. Quote Link to comment
ReddyRed Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 For all of the financial benefits of the B1G, every Husker misses winning conference championships – which hasn't happened in two decades. Nattys? Not even remotely on the horizon. Why? One reason is the absence of recruiting grounds. A&M is furious about the idea of UT joining them in the SEC. What if A&M called NU with the idea of creating a "new" conference that they both could control – kinda like the old days of the Big 8 (with OU)? NU, Texas A&M, KU, KSU, ISU, Texas Tech, OSU, Baylor and TCU for starters. Maybe keep West Virginia. There have been rumors that the Arizona schools could be picked up by somebody. Arkansas is often mentioned, too. Just spitballing, but kinda intriguing. A&M and NU (with renewed access to Texas recruits) could rule the roost of a very good conference. Would Alberts be receptive to that idea? 1 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, ReddyRed said: For all of the financial benefits of the B1G, every Husker misses winning conference championships – which hasn't happened in two decades. Nattys? Not even remotely on the horizon. Why? One reason is the absence of recruiting grounds. A&M is furious about the idea of UT joining them in the SEC. What if A&M called NU with the idea of creating a "new" conference that they both could control – kinda like the old days of the Big 8 (with OU)? NU, Texas A&M, KU, KSU, ISU, Texas Tech, OSU, Baylor and TCU for starters. Maybe keep West Virginia. There have been rumors that the Arizona schools could be picked up by somebody. Arkansas is often mentioned, too. Just spitballing, but kinda intriguing. A&M and NU could rule the roost of a very good conference. Would Alberts be receptive to that idea? A&M may be pissed off, but they aren't leaving the SEC. This "new" conference would be worse than the Pac 12 in terms of network interest, which would mean less $. I know we all want NU to be winning championships, but that wouldn't happen in this conference you are proposing. NU's response to anything is just to get better and start winning in the Big Ten. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 It would make my day if Texas and OU tear apart the Big 12 with this only to have the SEC say, thanks, but no thanks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: I can't believe this guy is still employed by the Big Ten. lol I can see it now. SEC adds Texas and Oklahoma. Big Ten adds Syracuse and Temple. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I hope Texas understands they won't have enough weight to outlaw the horns down hand gesture in the SEC. 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment
jaws Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said: It would make my day if Texas and OU tear apart the Big 12 with this only to have the SEC say, thanks, but no thanks. I think A&M leaked this to screw over Texas. 2 Quote Link to comment
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