floridacorn Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 The counter to SEC power moves in the name of FOOTBALL is to make an alliance that provides thought leadership on gender equality on top of the already stated thought leadership on diversity, equality, and inclusion? I guess if I cared about women's volleyball I might give two cents about this, but I don't. 2 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Stone Cold said: Anyone else feels like this is just like a used car we settle for but not the one we want. Feels like were setting ourselves up for the hot football prospects to go to the sec where you have a better shot getting into the pros but go into the alliance if you want to play football at a good institution while getting your education. There will still be a large number of kids going to the nfl from non-SEC programs. 1 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, floridacorn said: The counter to SEC power moves in the name of FOOTBALL is to make an alliance that provides thought leadership on gender equality on top of the already stated thought leadership on diversity, equality, and inclusion? I guess if I cared about women's volleyball I might give two cents about this, but I don't. If all the SEC cares about is football and not women’s sports they will go down burning. Good luck with this thought process. 1 Quote Link to comment
I am I Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I agree but I’m just playing devil’s advocate: women’s golf could go away from pretty much every D1 school. But these juggernaut football programs can exist for another 100 yrs all things being (un)equal Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, I am I said: I agree but I’m just playing devil’s advocate: women’s golf could go away from pretty much every D1 school. But these juggernaut football programs can exist for another 100 yrs all things being (un)equal Right, but I wasn’t talking about golf… Quote Link to comment
DrinkinwitTerrellFarley Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Been waiting for Nebraska to play Tennessee for how many years now? I hope the "scheduling alliance" allows for that contract. They want to boot Cincy that is fine by me. Eichorst's "gift" IIRC anyway. Quote Link to comment
Notre Dame Joe Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 5 hours ago, DrinkinwitTerrellFarley said: Been waiting for Nebraska to play Tennessee for how many years now? I hope the "scheduling alliance" allows for that contract. They want to boot Cincy that is fine by me. Eichorst's "gift" IIRC anyway. 25? Quote Link to comment
Bledred Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Looks like the tables have turned in the monopoly game that has become College Football. I believe this gives The Alliance (SEC/ESPN are the Empire no doubt lol) a slight edge over the SEC (including OU and TX) in money and exposure. It is a very safe bet for these three conferences to come together without them having to fight to add more teams to compete individually with the Empire. We have also positioned ourselves to make the most money when it comes to renegotiating the TV contracts for the B1G and PAC. ACC will have to be stuck with their current contract for the near future. The Big 12 has been totally and completely skunked. A check in on how they are doing: Quote Link to comment
Bledred Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Just think if we had never left the Big 12 where we would be right now? OU and TX leave us in a destroyed conference (that they destroyed) and move onto a super conference while we are stuck in a lower tier conference akin to the MAC or American. Thank you again TO! 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I'm really interested in seeing how this plays out. I think this is a very smart move to counter the power the SEC/ESPN have now. I'm particularly interested in two things: a). How does this influence the NCAA? These three conferences are obviously going to vote as a block which takes a lot of power away from the SEC. How will we see the NCAA change? Will we see actual, real investigations into SEC teams that everyone knows have been breaking rules for decades? b). Will these three conferences basically black ball the SEC in scheduling? I know that wouldn't change much with football. The top programs in the SEC have purposely not scheduled P5 programs outside the SEC footprint for a very long time. But, how does this affect other sports like basketball? Quote Link to comment
I am I Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 12 hours ago, In the Deed the Glory said: Right, but I wasn’t talking about golf… they will not go down burning. They will exist Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I'm not too confident in this thing yet. Feels like a lot of "oh yeah well we can make deals too." Let me know when these schools start dropping sec games or replacing smaller school games with marquee matchups. 1 Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Bledred said: Just think if we had never left the Big 12 where we would be right now? OU and TX leave us in a destroyed conference (that they destroyed) and move onto a super conference while we are stuck in a lower tier conference akin to the MAC or American. Thank you again TO! Considering our quality of play in recent history, being stuck in a lower tier conference might not be all bad. Recruiting could become interesting. If the SEC locks down the Southeast and the state of Texas, this leaves an awful lot of schools fighting for the Northern and California players. Parity in college football remains a myth with regards to the top programs. It seems it's the same teams year after year in the playoff. I fail to see how this changes. Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: I'm really interested in seeing how this plays out. I think this is a very smart move to counter the power the SEC/ESPN have now. I'm particularly interested in two things: a). How does this influence the NCAA? These three conferences are obviously going to vote as a block which takes a lot of power away from the SEC. How will we see the NCAA change? Will we see actual, real investigations into SEC teams that everyone knows have been breaking rules for decades? b). Will these three conferences basically black ball the SEC in scheduling? I know that wouldn't change much with football. The top programs in the SEC have purposely not scheduled P5 programs outside the SEC footprint for a very long time. But, how does this affect other sports like basketball? A and B are valid points and things I wonder about as well. Here is a C c) The obvious omission is the Big 12 lonely 8. Is it assumed that the Big 12 will pass away as soon as OU/Tx leave - whether that be in four years or in 2022? If so, is there a 'hidden plan' in place on how those 8 teams are swallowed up by the ACC/Big 10/Pac 12 Example: WV, Baylor to ACC TCU & TT, OSU to Pac 12 KSU, KU, ISU to Big 10 Of the list above - the only ones that really make sense to me are: WV to ACC - very natural fit travel wise and KU to Big 10 - AAU and Basketball Fit. ISU may add some value to the Big 10. OSU adds football value and if basketball rebounds they add basketball value but they just don't seem to fit the BIg 10. But then again we got Rutgers! TCU, TT, KSU, OSU, Baylor almost seem destined to go to the Mtn West or merge wt the AAC. Quote Link to comment
irafreak Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, junior4949 said: Considering our quality of play in recent history, being stuck in a lower tier conference might not be all bad. Recruiting could become interesting. If the SEC locks down the Southeast and the state of Texas, this leaves an awful lot of schools fighting for the Northern and California players. Parity in college football remains a myth with regards to the top programs. It seems it's the same teams year after year in the playoff. I fail to see how this changes. It's a shame isn't it? I remember the late 90s and early 2000s as a time when parity was all that was being talked about. Now we have a monopoly at the top and it makes it boring. 1 Quote Link to comment
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