Where We Veer into COVID Discussion

[hunter49]

there are lots of reasons to not vaccinate, no need to assume it is a political statement.

[funhusker]

14 hours ago, Bledred said:

The guy is being paid to be their football coach, not their doctor.  The team does have several doctors who should be answering the medical questions.  Everyone wants to make this a black and white issue (as with everything) but it is not and is HIGHLY complex as the world is going to soon find out.  No matter how you slice it the vax is considered an experimental drug by the FDA.  This is why it cannot be forced (yet) on the public.  People cannot be forced to be a part of a medical experiment.  A Doctor from one of the world's leading institutions in health at John Hopkins University says that having Natural Immunity is SEVEN times more effective in fighting the Delta Variant than getting the vax.  Turns out, God's design of our bodies (immune system) is still the best option.  Man always wants to tinker with what God has given us and it ALWAYS goes off the rails. 

 

https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/04/dr-makary-natural-immunity-covid-19-vaccine/

Curious if you read far enough into that article where that doctor from Johns Hopkins strongly encourages those who have not had COVID to get the vaccine?

[Guy Chamberlin]

10 minutes ago, Bledred said:

 

You actually think we are making progress in life expectancy?  We started out with slightly longer lives:

 

Adam lived to the age of 930 (Gen 5:5) and had a son..
Seth lived to the age of 912 (Gen 5:8) and had a son..
Enos lived to the age of 905 (Gen 5:11) and had a son..
Cainan lived to the age of 910 (Gen 5:14) and had a son..
Mahalaleel lived to the age of 895 (Gen 5:17) and had a son..
Jared lived to the age of 962 (Gen 5:20) and had a son..
Enoch lived to the age of 365 (Gen 5:23) and had a son..
Methuselah lived to the age of 969 (Gen 5:27) and had a son..
Lamech lived to the age of 777 (died 5 years before the flood)(Gen 5:31) and had a son..
Noah lived to the age of 950 (Gen 9:29) and had a son..
Shem lived 600 years (lived 502 years after the flood) and had a son..

 

 

 

Ah. Yeah. Listen, I honestly do respect the faith and beliefs of others, but I hope you can understand why your evidence should not be used to determine public health and the lives of others. 

 

For those who don't follow this sort of thing, the sudden usage of words like "experimental" and "mRNA spike-T cell delivery system" by people who traditionally don't follow medical science is the result of a messaging initiative by political interests using widely discredited sources. Feel free to post this in P&R but it appears that vaccine resistance is going to play a huge role in the football season. 

 

"God helps those who help themselves" as God once said. Vaccines will help us play football and not die. 

 

[NebraskaHarry]

11 minutes ago, hunter49 said:

there are lots of reasons to not vaccinate, no need to assume it is a political statement.

Yeah, but how many are those good reasons not to?

[funhusker]

11 minutes ago, hunter49 said:

there are lots of reasons to not vaccinate, no need to assume it is a political statement.

There’s also a lot of reasons to get vaccinated.

 

Just one being the reduced risk of having to forfeit a game.

 

I agree, no need to assume it’s a political statement.

[Kayak]

It’s just very eye opening that the SEC has recognized what it will take to ensure games get played and their players stay on the field.

[MyBloodIsRed16]

1 hour ago, Scarlet said:

150 years ago our life expectancy was 35 to 40 years.  Any idea why?

Standardization and OSHA?  Maybe no civil war involving all of the US?  Could be a lot of things

[Lorewarn]

1 hour ago, Bledred said:

Adam lived to the age of 930 (Gen 5:5) and had a son..
Seth lived to the age of 912 (Gen 5:8) and had a son..
Enos lived to the age of 905 (Gen 5:11) and had a son..
Cainan lived to the age of 910 (Gen 5:14) and had a son..
Mahalaleel lived to the age of 895 (Gen 5:17) and had a son..
Jared lived to the age of 962 (Gen 5:20) and had a son..
Enoch lived to the age of 365 (Gen 5:23) and had a son..
Methuselah lived to the age of 969 (Gen 5:27) and had a son..
Lamech lived to the age of 777 (died 5 years before the flood)(Gen 5:31) and had a son..
Noah lived to the age of 950 (Gen 9:29) and had a son..
Shem lived 600 years (lived 502 years after the flood) and had a son..

 

 

Sorry to break this to you but the genealogy in Genesis was not written to be literal. You're also not supposed to literally cut off your right hand if it sins, which I think you've so far been lucky enough to avoid with how long your posts take to type

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 hour ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

Standardization and OSHA?  Maybe no civil war involving all of the US?  Could be a lot of things

 

It is a lot of things, but it's mostly medical science and public hygiene. 

 

Just as a point of reference, more Americans died in 10 months of COVID than 4 years of combined civilian and military Civil War deaths. 

[Guy Chamberlin]

1 hour ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Sorry to break this to you but the genealogy in Genesis was not written to be literal. You're also not supposed to literally cut off your right hand if it sins, which I think you've so far been lucky enough to avoid with how long your posts take to type

 

And if we're going Old Testament, it's a sin to touch the skin of a pig. See you in hell, football players. 

[ColoradoHusk]

The term “experimental vaccine” is such complete BS. Do the research on how the vaccines were developed, tested, and how they went through the emergency approval process.

 

We are now 6 months into having the vaccine, there have very few side effects, and the vaccine has shown to be extremely effective against the symptoms of the vaccine. Simply put, the vaccine helps people from getting severely sick and/or hospitalized from COVID.

 

People being more concerned about the effects of the shot over the virus itself are moronic. 

[JJ Husker]

7 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

The term “experimental vaccine” is such complete BS. Do the research on how the vaccines were developed, tested, and how they went through the emergency approval process.

 

We are now 6 months into having the vaccine, there have very few side effects, and the vaccine has shown to be extremely effective against the symptoms of the vaccine. Simply put, the vaccine helps people from getting severely sick and/or hospitalized from COVID.

 

People being more concerned about the effects of the shot over the virus itself are moronic. 

/thread

 

It simply amazes me that we have people spouting utter nonsense about Covid and  particularly the vaccine.  That is the sort of stupidity that is going to let it linger and more than likely morph beyond vax control. Get the frikken vaccine people and quit being part of the problem.

[Born N Bled Red]

15 hours ago, Bledred said:

Hard Labor was the common job and inhaling, ingesting, and practically bathing in chemicals was a big part of those jobs during the industrial revolution, before there were labor law protections for working conditions.  A lot of the heavy labor was done with the arms and back, now we have modern day equipment to move tons in weight with a push of a button. 

 

Everything around us has become contaminated (again) (on purpose).  Ingestion through the skin of chemical cleaners, pesticides, and sanitizing agents. Water has fluoride and only God knows what in it.  Air has tons of pollutants in it that we constantly inhale.  Food has petroleum seepage from plastic containers and tons of poisonous preservatives in it.  Animals we consume have antibiotics and hormones in them.  Plants that we consume have been genetically altered and are bathed in pesticides.  The genetically altered animals we consume are eating genetically altered plants.  On and on.  

 

 

You actually think we are making progress in life expectancy?  We started out with slightly longer lives:

 

Adam lived to the age of 930 (Gen 5:5) and had a son..
Seth lived to the age of 912 (Gen 5:8) and had a son..
Enos lived to the age of 905 (Gen 5:11) and had a son..
Cainan lived to the age of 910 (Gen 5:14) and had a son..
Mahalaleel lived to the age of 895 (Gen 5:17) and had a son..
Jared lived to the age of 962 (Gen 5:20) and had a son..
Enoch lived to the age of 365 (Gen 5:23) and had a son..
Methuselah lived to the age of 969 (Gen 5:27) and had a son..
Lamech lived to the age of 777 (died 5 years before the flood)(Gen 5:31) and had a son..
Noah lived to the age of 950 (Gen 9:29) and had a son..
Shem lived 600 years (lived 502 years after the flood) and had a son..

 

 

I always theorized that in biblical times lives were so short they measured them by cycles of the mon rather than revolutions around the sun. Take each of those lifespans and divide by twelve. Voila, reasonable life spans.

[Guy Chamberlin]

My understanding is that the human body has always been capable of living 80 - 90 years, and people with lucky genetics lived well beyond the norm but stayed a small minority.

 

The thing that really brings the average down is childhood mortality; all the things that killed babies, infants, and children, not to mention the young mothers who died in childbirth.  Really common until recently. 

[ColoradoHusk]

4 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

My understanding is that the human body has always been capable of living 80 - 90 years, and people with lucky genetics lived well beyond the norm but stayed a small minority.

 

The thing that really brings the average down is childhood mortality; all the things that killed babies, infants, and children, not to mention the young mothers who died in childbirth.  Really common until recently. 

Median age of mortality is a better measure given the changes to deaths for babies, infants, and children, along with young people dying during child birth and other issues.