*** Official Michigan State Game Thread ***

[lo country]

Just now, Wistrom Disciple said:

Lol lay off the booze man. Or stay off the message board for tonight. 

Hahaha.  Not as HC.  He'd be a great fit as OC.  Truly believe that.

[huskerfan74]

This loss hurts so deep. We had the win. Their offense was a nonfactor all second half and we spot them 7 points because of our incompetent punter and then surrender two drives where we had enough time to go down the field and at least try and win the game. At this point we are afraid to win against teams with a pulse. Frost needs to evaluate himself and step down as HC. He has been given ample time to succeed and he keeps finding ways to fail.

[irafreak]

Ask him about the special teams coach!

[LumberJackSker]

2 minutes ago, The Duke said:

I can't believe what I'm hearing on Frost's post-game press conference.

 

He's blaming the players!

 

I wanted Coach Frost here, but this is unexceptable. The win-loss record falls squarely on the Head Coach and his coaching staff.

throwing them under a fleet of buses

[The Duke]

 

 

 

[Wistrom Disciple]

1 minute ago, lo country said:

I'd love for Frost to be the guy.  Truly.  but he's not.  He's not a good CEO.  One game, hell one season it might be culture, personality, growing pains, but year 4 it's the CEO's issue.  It is either taught, allowed or over looked...

He put trust into the wrong people I’ll give you that. I think he’s aware that changes need to happen and I firmly believe some staff moves will occur this off season. 
 

That said, changing coaches again will only recycle the regime change deal and we will spend several more agonizing years dealing with coaching philosophy changes or a revolving door of assistants. Not good

[Archy1221]

20 minutes ago, BoNeyard said:

But on paper Martinez had a helluva game, forget his fumble and that INT. 

He missed like 4 open receivers for touchdowns this game. He was back to the old Adrian in the passing game.  Late to make decisions and of course the line sucks too.  Not a good combo.

[NoLongerN]

This board is amazing.  You give crap all off-season for folks having a negative perception of the improvements ... [we stopped drinking the kool-aid] and gave caution.

 

Now, we lose to the #3 and #20 teams, both games we almost won [on the road] ... and now the folks who have been bloviating for the past 2-3 years with unrealistic standards of how good we would be now think to fire him after this game would make any sense for the effort being given.

 

This team still can win 3-4 more games if it plays hard.  Keep your head out of your ars and stop the whining.  We were not suppose to win but 4-5 games.  

[Farms]

3 minutes ago, The Duke said:

I can't believe what I'm hearing on Frost's post-game press conference.

 

He's blaming the players!

 

I wanted Coach Frost here, but this is unexceptable. The win-loss record falls squarely on the Head Coach and his coaching staff.

No wonder there still culture issues. He blames the players when in reality they are the ones being let down.

[DefenderAO]

11 minutes ago, MLB 51 said:

What's your f#&%ing point? We lost. Defense wasn't the problem. Special teams killed us, again.

My point is the OU game clearly gave them next level confidence to play well enough to win.  We lost, yes, but OU being "overrated' was a clear boost to our team.

[Wistrom Disciple]

3 minutes ago, The Duke said:

I can't believe what I'm hearing on Frost's post-game press conference.

 

He's blaming the players!

 

I wanted Coach Frost here, but this is unexceptable. The win-loss record falls squarely on the Head Coach and his coaching staff.

So… he’s being truthful? At some point, the obvious needs to be pointed out. They can coach until they are blue in the face, players making dumb decisions sometimes have zero to do with coaching, practice, etc. 
 

 

[The Duke]

Michigan State didn't have a single First Down in the second half and we still lost.

[huskerfan74]

Austin needs to be fired yesterday

need to hire the best special teams coach out there

frost needs to learn how to call plays in the red zone and in 2-minute drills. He sucks plain and simple.

[Hayseed]

11 minutes ago, The Duke said:

I would fire Scott Frost tonight and promote Chinander to coach the team the rest of the season.

 

Chinander's defense played lights out AGAIN, and couldn't get any help from Frost's inept offense.

Might as well. And fire the QB, RB and Oline coaches as well. Frost and Martinez are QB sneak specialists who belong in a high school league. Play Smothers, the next coach will need an experienced QB.

[huskerfan74]

2 minutes ago, BigRedN said:

This board is amazing.  You give crap all off-season for folks having a negative perception of the improvements ... [we stopped drinking the kool-aid] and gave caution.

 

Now, we lose to the #3 and #20 teams, both games we almost won [on the road] ... and now the folks who have been bloviating for the past 2-3 years with unrealistic standards of how good we would be now think to fire him after this game would make any sense for the effort being given.

 

This team still can win 3-4 more games if it plays hard.  Keep your head out of your ars and stop the whining.  We were not suppose to win but 4-5 games.  

So we should lower our expectations. When can we start to expect to win? We should not have lost this game. Period.