Packerhuskerfan Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, BIG ERN said: Believe it or not teams are still playing for something at this time of the year So an offensive line coach or another position coach as our next OC? I can't see a successful OC switching over from a winning program. Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, BIG ERN said: Believe it or not teams are still playing for something at this time of the year Give or take a few. 1 Quote Link to comment
runningblind Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: Give or take a few. Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, JJ Husker said: No matter how many times you float this idea, it’s not gonna happen. I’m sure he’s good and all but the kid is only 7. Husker’s minimum age requirement for OC is obviously going to be 10. And he didn't go to Nebraska, which kind of pushes his resume to the bottom of the pile. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, The Dude said: That would definitely be the "our first 7 options didn't work out" hire. Which is looking more likely the longer this drags out. I've felt from the beginning that it's most likely the guy that gets brought in really isn't any better of a coach than Matt Lubick. Retaining players and fixing the offensive line & special teams is really what was needed to turn this team around. I really want to be wrong about the guy that comes in as OC, though. 1 Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I'd be on board with Anae coming for both the OC and OL roles; it'd free up a spot for a ST coordinator (as long as Frost takes QBs), and Virginia's offense was ridiculously good this year comparative to the talent level they have (and against the SOS they played). 1 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 The feeling I can’t shake is this. The rationale for not having an OC announced yet is that he must still be involved in a meaningful game this weekend. So I’m left wondering why, other than possibly a boatload of money, would any coach from a winning program want to relocate to this dumpster fire. No, my hopes aren’t high. Yes, I’m expecting another “Mike Riley who” moment. This whole deal should’ve got headed in a new, hopeful direction about a week ago but instead we’re going to have another year, again, of s#!t. I really think Trev screwed up his first and best chance. 4 Quote Link to comment
Scarlet Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 There are a number of reasons why an OC from a currently successful program may want to go to a program that is down at the moment. One is more money. Another is that with the soaring salaries of head coaches it may be worth the gamble for some to take the chance that they build a down program into a winner and in doing so raise their stock as a head coaching candidate. It's one thing to maintain an already successful offense. It's another to build one up from the ashes and put your stamp in that success. Quote Link to comment
Jason Sitoke Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Scarlet said: There are a number of reasons why an OC from a currently successful program may want to go to a program that is down at the moment. One is more money. Another is that with the soaring salaries of head coaches it may be worth the gamble for some to take the chance that they build a down program into a winner and in doing so raise their stock as a head coaching candidate. It's one thing to maintain an already successful offense. It's another to build one up from the ashes and put your stamp in that success. Agreed on the money, but no on everything else. Objectively, this is a sinking ship that no one with ambitions would be excited to join. I could be wrong, but outside of special circumstances (untenable personality conflict with the head coach, and need to find a new opportunity fast), we are not going to be getting the 'pick of the litter' as a feller once said. Hope I'm wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said: Agreed on the money, but no on everything else. Objectively, this is a sinking ship that no one with ambitions would be excited to join. I could be wrong, but outside of special circumstances (untenable personality conflict with the head coach, and need to find a new opportunity fast), we are not going to be getting the 'pick of the litter' as a feller once said. Hope I'm wrong. Yeah, I was thinking similar. Everyone will listen to money. Then look at expectations, stability and success. Not sure a lot of people would leave land for money that's in the Bay Ocean with sharks everywhere. You could possibly be gone in one year with that captain of the ship. Ok that's probably a stupid analogy, lol but hey it's friday! 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, JJ Husker said: The feeling I can’t shake is this. The rationale for not having an OC announced yet is that he must still be involved in a meaningful game this weekend. So I’m left wondering why, other than possibly a boatload of money, would any coach from a winning program want to relocate to this dumpster fire. No, my hopes aren’t high. Yes, I’m expecting another “Mike Riley who” moment. This whole deal should’ve got headed in a new, hopeful direction about a week ago but instead we’re going to have another year, again, of s#!t. I really think Trev screwed up his first and best chance. The Army-Navy game isn't until the 11th. Patience... 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Comish Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, JJ Husker said: The feeling I can’t shake is this. The rationale for not having an OC announced yet is that he must still be involved in a meaningful game this weekend. So I’m left wondering why, other than possibly a boatload of money, would any coach from a winning program want to relocate to this dumpster fire. No, my hopes aren’t high. Yes, I’m expecting another “Mike Riley who” moment. This whole deal should’ve got headed in a new, hopeful direction about a week ago but instead we’re going to have another year, again, of s#!t. I really think Trev screwed up his first and best chance. The opposite potential benefit is that if Trev fired Frost weeks ago, we would now be competing with 20 or so other programs for a new head coach; and not looking so competitive in that pool. IF the Trev/Frost 1 year experiment flames out, the odds are more favorable that the number of comparable P5 openings next year "might" be less hostile then. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Comish said: The opposite potential benefit is that if Trev fired Frost weeks ago, we would now be competing with 20 or so other programs for a new head coach; and not looking so competitive in that pool. IF the Trev/Frost 1 year experiment flames out, the odds are more favorable that the number of comparable P5 openings next year "might" be less hostile then. I agree as far as next year possibly being a better time to find a coach(s). Maybe it will be, maybe it won’t be. But the thing that is becoming more obvious is that the program is going to flounder for another year, the year that is delivering our easiest B1G schedule in a long time, maybe the easiest since we’ve joined the B1G. My doubt comes into play when 6 or 7 wins with that schedule will be looked at as improvement. But what is more disturbing is the possibility we did nothing AND we don’t even get those 6 or 7 wins. Just seems like squandered time and another miserable year to be a fan. It will take 8+ wins and I just don’t see it shaping up that way. We are losing key players left and right, the staff is a lame duck in flux, recruiting prognosis is terrible….. I know I’m depressing but gd, how much can a fan take? 1 Quote Link to comment
Danimal Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 7 hours ago, The Dude said: That would definitely be the "our first 7 options didn't work out" hire. Which is looking more likely the longer this drags out. How would the OC of a successful P5 offense definitely be a "our first 7 options didn't work out" hire? Not saying he's my top choice but he'd certainly be a legit hire. 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, Danimal said: How would the OC of a successful P5 offense definitely be a "our first 7 options didn't work out" hire? Because I don't believe he was on the list since Trev and Frost probably didn't have inside knowledge Bronco was going to step down a month later. 1 Quote Link to comment
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