TGHusker Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Huskers93-97 said: What an accomplishment. Our passing and receiving records at Nebraska are not impressive to most programs. We spent 100 years running the ball. Then the last 20 years changing schemes and sucking at football. So guessing tons of records and stats get broken at NU. To your point. Adrian has set several records during his career. But when you think of a list of Husker great QBs, I don't think of him in the top 10 - not anywhere close. Records are meaningless without wins. He is top 10 in the kind of person we'd want on our program however. Of course, perhaps he could have been top 10 if we had a competent o-line and competent coaching around him. Yet, we still would have had his turnovers and bad red zone and end of game performance to take into account. 1 Quote Link to comment
gossamorharpy Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, TGHusker said: To your point. Adrian has set several records during his career. But when you think of a list of Husker great QBs, I don't think of him in the top 10 - not anywhere close. Records are meaningless without wins. He is top 10 in the kind of person we'd want on our program however. Of course, perhaps he could have been top 10 if we had a competent o-line and competent coaching around him. Yet, we still would have had his turnovers and bad red zone and end of game performance to take into account. Lol bro, I too wanted more success for 2AM, but to say he doesn’t even crack the top 10 is a slap in the face and borderline disrespectful 2 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, gossamorharpy said: Lol bro, I too wanted more success for 2AM, but to say he doesn’t even crack the top 10 is a slap in the face and borderline disrespectful That is why I added the additional - he didn't have an 0-line and coaching support he needed. But as I said - it isn't about the individual stats that a player has accumulated. Football is a team sport. To AM's credit, his supporting cast wasn't as good as other past QBs. But in the crunch, I can think of others who I would prefer leading the team during crunch time. NO disrespect to AM is meant at all. He showed great heart and dedication. If I had a million dollar bet and it depended on the QB, I'd feel much better if it was one of these guys leading my team: In no particular order Frazier Gill Frost Crouch Steve Taylor Humm Tagge Ganz Zac Taylor Vince Ferragamo Dennis Claridge Taylor Martinez Brook Berringer Gerry Gdowski 1 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, TGHusker said: To your point. Adrian has set several records during his career. But when you think of a list of Husker great QBs, I don't think of him in the top 10 - not anywhere close. Records are meaningless without wins. He is top 10 in the kind of person we'd want on our program however. Of course, perhaps he could have been top 10 if we had a competent o-line and competent coaching around him. Yet, we still would have had his turnovers and bad red zone and end of game performance to take into account. Put him on the teams that have your top ten and how do you think he would be? 3 1 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, BigRedBuster said: Put him on the teams that have your top ten and how do you think he would be? I think he would have done very well. But we'd have to add - better coaching as well. His mechanics were still off on certain types of passes. His tendency to turn the ball over was an issue. But not uncommon with some of our former option QBs like Crouch. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, TGHusker said: That is why I added the additional - he didn't have an 0-line and coaching support he needed. But as I said - it isn't about the individual stats that a player has accumulated. Football is a team sport. To AM's credit, his supporting cast wasn't as good as other past QBs. But in the crunch, I can think of others who I would prefer leading the team during crunch time. NO disrespect to AM is meant at all. He showed great heart and dedication. If I had a million dollar bet and it depended on the QB, I'd feel much better if it was one of these guys leading my team: In no particular order Frazier Gill Frost Crouch Steve Taylor Humm Tagge Ganz Zac Taylor Vince Ferragamo Dennis Claridge Taylor Martinez Brook Berringer Gerry Gdowski I would take Adrian over Taylor. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
desertshox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: I would take Adrian over Taylor. which one; zac, steve or martinez? Edited November 25, 2021 by desertshox didnt see all 3 at first Quote Link to comment
Slow yer Roll Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, TGHusker said: To your point. Adrian has set several records during his career. But when you think of a list of Husker great QBs, I don't think of him in the top 10 - not anywhere close. Records are meaningless without wins. He is top 10 in the kind of person we'd want on our program however. Of course, perhaps he could have been top 10 if we had a competent o-line and competent coaching around him. Yet, we still would have had his turnovers and bad red zone and end of game performance to take into account. OFFS! give him an o-line, and good coaches he's put a couple hiesmans in the trophy case. 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, desertshox said: which one; zac, steve or martinez? Martinez. But, I might even say Zac also. Quote Link to comment
hskrpwr13 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, Slow yer Roll said: OFFS! give him an o-line, and good coaches he's put a couple hiesmans in the trophy case. Wow! Thats some level of hyperbole. The vast majority of his glaring poor decisions, passes, or turnovers aren't on him, huh? Its mostly coaching and supporting cast failures? Perhaps you'll be proven correct based on which round he's drafted. 1 Quote Link to comment
dspanther05 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Slow yer Roll said: OFFS! give him an o-line, and good coaches he's put a couple hiesmans in the trophy case. Someone started drinking early today. Should be a first day draft pick then with that much potential. My guess he goes undrafted. Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, TGHusker said: To your point. Adrian has set several records during his career. But when you think of a list of Husker great QBs, I don't think of him in the top 10 - not anywhere close. Records are meaningless without wins. He is top 10 in the kind of person we'd want on our program however. Of course, perhaps he could have been top 10 if we had a competent o-line and competent coaching around him. Yet, we still would have had his turnovers and bad red zone and end of game performance to take into account. By this logic, Dan Marino isn't a great QB cuz he never won a super bowl but Trent Dilfer is 5 1 Quote Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Put him on the teams that have your top ten and how do you think he would be? He would be fine unless NU was in a close game. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, GSG said: By this logic, Dan Marino isn't a great QB cuz he never won a super bowl but Trent Dilfer is Who knew, Stafford is a great QB and Goff sucks. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Archy1221 said: He would be fine unless NU was in a close game. Yeah, because nobody else on the team plays a part in winning close games. 1 Quote Link to comment
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