All Hail Herbie Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: And, if we had a good O line and RB play, we would be calling more RB runs. This probably would be taking away more from called pass plays. Which....would automatically cut down on QB runs since there would be fewer scrambles/sacks. Yep, this is philosophy and scheme. When your O line sucks and your RBs can't be dominating runners, you have to change your philosophy and scheme to account for that. Which, causes more passing plays to be called...which causes more scrambles and sacks.....because.......your O line sucks. Based on this assessment then, the argument is that we are simply playing to our personnel strength as an offense, drop-back passing. Our personnel are simply incapable of establishing a ground game for a TE, WR, or RB to run the ball. The problem with that argument is that we are currently 12th in the conference with 27 sacks allowed this season. Evidently, we are no better at pass blocking than we are at run blocking. Point being, if your personnel are lacking, you have to be creative in your approach. Utilize misdirection or employ a fullback or an extra tight end on some plays in order to gain leverage and break a run or two. A ground game of any sort serves as a better foundation for success. While I know we are maximizing everything right now, it might not hurt for a team suffering from 5 consecutive losing seasons to look at a different approach. 1 Quote Link to comment
Dogs In A Pile Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Weakest link? We are almost dead last in special teams and turnovers. Yup. Yet HCSF still isn't sure about hiring a full time ST coach. Go figure TO Margin - #96 Punt Return Defense - #78 Punt Returns #127 KO Return Defense - #116 KO Returns - #123 1 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, All Hail Herbie said: Based on this assessment then, the argument is that we are simply playing to our personnel strength as an offense, drop-back passing. Our personnel are simply incapable of establishing a ground game for a TE, WR, or RB to run the ball. The problem with that argument is that we are currently 12th in the conference with 27 sacks allowed this season. Evidently, we are no better at pass blocking than we are at run blocking. Point being, if your personnel are lacking, you have to be creative in your approach. Utilize misdirection or employ a fullback or an extra tight end on some plays in order to gain leverage and break a run or two. A ground game of any sort serves as a better foundation for success. While I know we are maximizing everything right now, it might not hurt for a team suffering from 5 consecutive losing seasons to look at a different approach. You do realize that the line needs to be involved with both running and passing....good. But, a pass gets the ball past the LOS so they don't have to open up a hole. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, All Hail Herbie said: Based on this assessment then, the argument is that we are simply playing to our personnel strength as an offense, drop-back passing. Our personnel are simply incapable of establishing a ground game for a TE, WR, or RB to run the ball. The problem with that argument is that we are currently 12th in the conference with 27 sacks allowed this season. Evidently, we are no better at pass blocking than we are at run blocking. Point being, if your personnel are lacking, you have to be creative in your approach. Utilize misdirection or employ a fullback or an extra tight end on some plays in order to gain leverage and break a run or two. A ground game of any sort serves as a better foundation for success. While I know we are maximizing everything right now, it might not hurt for a team suffering from 5 consecutive losing seasons to look at a different approach. We run quite a bit of 12 personnel actually. And against Wisconsin I think I saw more max protect than ever. The tOSU game saw a lot of max protect too with TEs chipping or blocking and RBs staying home as well. 2 Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Message boards crack me up. Sometimes I feel like I’m reading something written by Ignatius J. Reilly. 1 Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 hours ago, skers83 said: I have been calling for Masker for 2 years but Frost doesn't listen to me. Of course it was crap time against Northwestern after they’d given up, but he looked as smooth as Joe Ganz out there. 1 Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, All Hail Herbie said: Based on this assessment then, the argument is that we are simply playing to our personnel strength as an offense, drop-back passing. Our personnel are simply incapable of establishing a ground game for a TE, WR, or RB to run the ball. The problem with that argument is that we are currently 12th in the conference with 27 sacks allowed this season. Evidently, we are no better at pass blocking than we are at run blocking. Point being, if your personnel are lacking, you have to be creative in your approach. Utilize misdirection or employ a fullback or an extra tight end on some plays in order to gain leverage and break a run or two. A ground game of any sort serves as a better foundation for success. While I know we are maximizing everything right now, it might not hurt for a team suffering from 5 consecutive losing seasons to look at a different approach. Ron Brown has coached some great RBs…. Let him call the plays when Frost runs out of ideas in the red zone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Hayseed Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said: I figured you were joking, but I was also just curious if you were from Kearney, as well. I’m not joking. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 hours ago, JJ Husker said: Well, if you bury him a few times, he starts thinking more about self preservation and less about his job. It severely shortens the amount of time he is willing to expend reading the defense. I’d sure start with pressure on a noob. Yeah, I can see that as the hope but when you give QB's 1 on 1 coverage it makes things really easy. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, teachercd said: Yeah, I can see that as the hope but when you give QB's 1 on 1 coverage it makes things really easy. If I were Iowa, I would sit back in coverage, see if Smothers can find the right spot in the zone, and see if their front 4 can get pressure on NU's porous offensive line. Then bring more guys or a zone blitz in random times in the game. If I were Nebraska, I would try to use a lot of play action passes on first and second down to try and loosen up those LB's. Then attack with some QB run game. Frost has said that Haarberg could play some, so I wonder if he will be the "passing QB" with Smothers being the "running QB". 1 Quote Link to comment
Comish Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: If I were Iowa, I would sit back in coverage, see if Smothers can find the right spot in the zone, and see if their front 4 can get pressure on NU's porous offensive line. Then bring more guys or a zone blitz in random times in the game. If I were Nebraska, I would try to use a lot of play action passes on first and second down to try and loosen up those LB's. Then attack with some QB run game. Frost has said that Haarberg could play some, so I wonder if he will be the "passing QB" with Smothers being the "running QB". Option and wildcat 1 1 Quote Link to comment
thexyz Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: If I were Iowa, I would sit back in coverage, see if Smothers can find the right spot in the zone, and see if their front 4 can get pressure on NU's porous offensive line. Then bring more guys or a zone blitz in random times in the game. If I were Nebraska, I would try to use a lot of play action passes on first and second down to try and loosen up those LB's. Then attack with some QB run game. Frost has said that Haarberg could play some, so I wonder if he will be the "passing QB" with Smothers being the "running QB". 6 minutes ago, Comish said: Option and wildcat Seems that he can drop balls in there to receivers pretty nice watching him. Doesn't throw with a lot of velocity from what I've seen. Makes decisions fairly quick, is fast and has a good deal of elusiveness. He'd better protect the ball. What I viewed concerns me some there the way he carries it sometimes. Utilize the tall tight ends and other taller targets to avoid snags. Use a fair amount of quick short and intermediate passing. Mix in some misdirection with the play action and option. Tempo! Quote Link to comment
runningblind Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: If I were Iowa, I would sit back in coverage, see if Smothers can find the right spot in the zone, and see if their front 4 can get pressure on NU's porous offensive line. Then bring more guys or a zone blitz in random times in the game. If I were Nebraska, I would try to use a lot of play action passes on first and second down to try and loosen up those LB's. Then attack with some QB run game. Frost has said that Haarberg could play some, so I wonder if he will be the "passing QB" with Smothers being the "running QB". That's a great point. Why bother to blitz when 3 or 4 get pressure most of the time anyway. Quote Link to comment
admo Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, teachercd said: I have never understood the philosophy of blitzing a new QB It makes his reads easier and quicker for him. The hardest thing for most new QB's is reading the defense. They say noodle arm, can't throw deep. Here's a 40 yard dime b!^@hes! 5 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Doesn't know the offense. We are so screwed 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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