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Mickey Joseph Hired As WR’s Coach, AHC & Passing Game Coordinator


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2 minutes ago, Huskinator said:

I don’t disagree at all. That being said, it all depends on the coach they bring in.  Maybe it is Joseph?!?  It’s all a headache I’m glad I don’t have to make and that 84huskerlaw isn’t making lol

Lol.   I didn’t suggest they do that.  I asked why you don’t consider some of your good existing coaches.  ?    Frost will have had about 14 assistants of his choice to do what he tells them to do.  At that point, why do you blame a bunch of assistants just doing the things their boss says.  When the CEO fails, you don’t need to fire the staff.   Trev is not spending millions more just to dump them in Oct or Nov if Frost’s new plan flops.  How on Earth do you say only Joseph and Busch should be kept and the program turned over to them without at least some time to evaluate their capabilities and work product. 

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5 minutes ago, Savage Husker said:

I’m not saying what you said was racist but assuming economic situations for ones race *is* racist. The insinuation of kids not connecting with a recruiter over race would be racism. 

Fair comment about my comment about economic situations.  I don't know how the black Omaha kids are growing up and their economic situation.  I shouldn't have made that comment.

 

I won't take back my comment that a black kid from Omaha could probably connect with a black coach from Louisiana compared to a white coach from Lincoln.

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10 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

It would no doubt be a unique circumstance, but there's plenty of reasons to do it:

 

1) If Trev felt that the pieces of the team were all performing at a high level and the issue with getting over the top was the culture that the head man set, and there's a guy on staff who you could elevate that would set the standard that is needed, such as Mickey.

2) At a school like Nebraska where a lot of kids came here to play for a position coach, you could obliterate your roster by cleaning house. Honestly, if this staff all leaves after this year, how many of the DBs are still here in 2023? Or Receivers? We're talking mass exodus that can set the roster back 4-5 years.

 

This is what I was thinking when I made my post that started this tangent.

 

It will hopefully easy for decision makers involved in the program to identify strengths and weaknesses of the current staff if/when they have to make a decision.

 

It just seems that Mickey Joseph is having a much larger influence on things already than just an ordinary WR coach.

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34 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Fair comment about my comment about economic situations.  I don't know how the black Omaha kids are growing up and their economic situation.  I shouldn't have made that comment.

 

I won't take back my comment that a black kid from Omaha could probably connect with a black coach from Louisiana compared to a white coach from Lincoln.

If it is a race thing by the kid or the coach, then it’s BS on whichever party holds that view. That’s enabling racism by removing Ruud to insert Joseph, if that’s the perception. 
 

From the BellWest coach, “if Joseph was there, then Helms and Johnson would be at Nebraska.” If he’s certain those two would be at Nebraska for Joseph then what’s the deal with bagging on Ruud checking in on Omaha? Is Helms moving to WR in college? 
 

His quotes don’t jive with the Huskerboard rumors. 

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Frank was a position coach when Osborne retired. Yes, I know TO requested that Solich become his successor, but still he was the running-back coach. Yes I realize the circumstances were different and Solich was coaching at N for a long time, but he still was a position coach. As I said in another thread, it’s way too early to even talk about Frost losing his job. But in case he does in the long run get fired or even resigns, it’s not impossible for a position coach like Joseph, with the great  influence he already has, to become the head coach. His influence seems to be more than just your regular assistant coach. But let’s see how next season goes first. My opinion could  change depending on the results of next season and how Joseph does. I will leave it at that. 

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On 1/24/2022 at 10:53 AM, teachercd said:

Yeah but that is a tough sell...firing the HC and hiring one of his position coaches to be the new HC?

 

 

It worked for Dabo Swinney. Went from WR coach to HC and it turned out ok for Clemson. I'm not saying that is what needs to happen, but it has happened before.

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On 1/24/2022 at 12:39 PM, Savage Husker said:

If it is a race thing by the kid or the coach, then it’s BS on whichever party holds that view. That’s enabling racism by removing Ruud to insert Joseph, if that’s the perception. 
 

From the BellWest coach, “if Joseph was there, then Helms and Johnson would be at Nebraska.” If he’s certain those two would be at Nebraska for Joseph then what’s the deal with bagging on Ruud checking in on Omaha? Is Helms moving to WR in college? 
 

His quotes don’t jive with the Huskerboard rumors. 

if helms and johnson are offensive skill players, it's not inconcievable to see that Mickey Joseph, who has a proven track record with skill position players, would have done better. unless there's something i'm missing.

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42 minutes ago, thatguy said:

if helms and johnson are offensive skill players, it's not inconcievable to see that Mickey Joseph, who has a proven track record with skill position players, would have done better. unless there's something i'm missing.

Sam McKewon mentioned that Joseph may be better in Omaha, because of Omaha's history of sending skills players (RB, WR, CB, etc.) and having a former LB (and LB coach) may not have connected with the skill players.  Other than Betts (who was a huge academic risk, so that scared off other teams), the recent Omaha guys were LB's, linemen, and TE's.  It's not a fault of Ruud's, it's just that the skill players are probably looking for a different type of coach to recruit them.

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On 1/25/2022 at 1:05 PM, Guy Chamberlin said:

In the NFL where there is slightly more money and reputation at stake, every underperforming team is chasing HC candidates with no HC experience. Usually OCs and DCs but not always. You identify a smart mind and a good motivator and grab him while he's under the radar. 

Zac Taylor was OC for all of one season at  U of Cincinnati before landing the Bengals job, correct?

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