Last Coaching position Quandry

[Wunderkind]

Or they have a coach in mind that does RB and ST, but they can't announce it yet . I know wishful thinking.

[M.A.]

8 minutes ago, Wunderkind said:

Or they have a coach in mind that does RB and ST, but they can't announce it yet . I know wishful thinking.

It's possible candidates might be coaching in bowl games. 

[huskerfan74]

If Frost does not hire a dedicated special teams coach, he will have sealed his fate.

[GlobalHusker]

Among the teams still playing, Army special teams coach used to also coach running backs. Possibly no connection.

[San Diego Husker]

while i know about 90% of the good folks on this board want a dedicated special teams coach, i am thinking it may be a waste of coach position.  i have read that the average team only spends about 15 minutes a practice on special teams.   I also know that the problems are that we have a field goal kicker who had the yipps, and probably couldn't kick the ball over a barn, and punter that is brand new to the game.  I didn't see a lot of breakdowns (kicking) on the other 10 players.  Yes, Cam Britt was a mess on special teams (punt return) but his errors generally could be classified as aggressive errors, trying to make something happen on his own.  other punt returners simply fair caugt everything.  Scott definitely needs to dedicate resources to the return game (ST as a whole).  Maybe have two coaches combine special teams work and not one dedicated coach?  if they dedicate a coach who will spend 15 minutes a practice to ST, that does seem a bit wasteful.  the running back room really needs a dedicated coach.  Scott cannot ignore ST any longer, so I am glad I don't have the make this decision.  Scott could be the one to work with ST, his job depends on getting that part fixed.  Not sure i want to leave my Nebraska career in the hands of another coach that easily.  

[Danimal]

10 hours ago, runningblind said:

Bingo. No reason to not announce a ST hire now unless you're still trying to figure out how to maneuver the coaching duties or you're still not sold on hiring a coordinator, which he alluded to already.

 

Things could improve without a dedicated coordinator, but does anyone really trust they will? It needs to be the most important thing to the entire team, with OL improvement being 1B. We shall see what actually happens.

 

I'd say the last two games sealed that we'd be hiring a new ST's coordinator. Now they're trying to see how to best make pieces fit while waiting to see if(possibly when) a coach leaves. Maybe we end-up with a full-time ST's coach, maybe we end-up with a position/ST's coach. Meanwhile Busch and Brown are both out on the road and Busch is still on LSU's dime. 

[Dogs In A Pile]

15 hours ago, San Diego Husker said:

while i know about 90% of the good folks on this board want a dedicated special teams coach, i am thinking it may be a waste of coach position.  i have read that the average team only spends about 15 minutes a practice on special teams.   I also know that the problems are that we have a field goal kicker who had the yipps, and probably couldn't kick the ball over a barn, and punter that is brand new to the game.  I didn't see a lot of breakdowns (kicking) on the other 10 players.

 

True, while there was certainly many individual breakdowns and mistakes by the kickers/returners it doesn't address the systemic problems NU has had with its special teams (and other areas as well) all four years HCSF has been at the helm. If you are happy with the following with follow stats from 2021 then maybe we just keep doing what we've been doing. There is a reason the vast majority of D1 schools have a dedicated ST coach.

 

Kickoff Return Defense - #116
Kickoff Returns = #125
Net Punting - #118
Punt Return Defense - #86
Punt Returns - #128

[lo country]

16 minutes ago, Dogs In A Pile said:

 

True, while there was certainly many individual breakdowns and mistakes by the kickers/returners it doesn't address the systemic problems NU has had with its special teams (and other areas as well) all four years HCSF has been at the helm. If you are happy with the following with follow stats from 2021 then maybe we just keep doing what we've been doing. There is a reason the vast majority of D1 schools have a dedicated ST coach.

 

Kickoff Return Defense - #116
Kickoff Returns = #125
Net Punting - #118
Punt Return Defense - #86
Punt Returns - #128

No way is a team (any team) competitive when 1/3 of the game is basically ignored.  Looking at those it is not "just a specialist", it's the whole system.  

[Cdn Blackshirt Two]

12 hours ago, Danimal said:

 

I'd say the last two games sealed that we'd be hiring a new ST's coordinator. Now they're trying to see how to best make pieces fit while waiting to see if(possibly when) a coach leaves. Maybe we end-up with a full-time ST's coach, maybe we end-up with a position/ST's coach. Meanwhile Busch and Brown are both out on the road and Busch is still on LSU's dime. 

 

Haven't heard much about Dawson on recruiting trail....

 

If I missed that, my apologies.

 

Any chance Frost is actually trying to bring in two new coaches, but is trying to wait for Dawson to find a landing place first?

[Hedley Lamarr]

31 minutes ago, Cdn Blackshirt Two said:

 

Haven't heard much about Dawson on recruiting trail....

 

If I missed that, my apologies.

 

Any chance Frost is actually trying to bring in two new coaches, but is trying to wait for Dawson to find a landing place first?

I've had a similar hunch lately. He's one of the very few you haven't heard much from. 

[Danimal]

2 minutes ago, Cdn Blackshirt Two said:

 

Haven't heard much about Dawson on recruiting trail....

 

If I missed that, my apologies.

 

Any chance Frost is actually trying to bring in two new coaches, but is trying to wait for Dawson to find a landing place first?

 

With Chin have LB-coaching experience and being able to take a group I think we can do fine with one LB-coach. I'd slightly prefer if Dawson was our one LB-coach but if one is leaving I do think it's him. Either way, if the rest of our current staff was set in stone going into next season I think we'd have had an announcement by now in terms of the current opening. 

[huskerfan74]

6 hours ago, Dogs In A Pile said:

 

True, while there was certainly many individual breakdowns and mistakes by the kickers/returners it doesn't address the systemic problems NU has had with its special teams (and other areas as well) all four years HCSF has been at the helm. If you are happy with the following with follow stats from 2021 then maybe we just keep doing what we've been doing. There is a reason the vast majority of D1 schools have a dedicated ST coach.

 

Kickoff Return Defense - #116
Kickoff Returns = #125
Net Punting - #118
Punt Return Defense - #86
Punt Returns - #128

I have been saying that all season long yet some fans still believe that any coach can do a decent job coaching the special teams because we only spend 15 minutes practicing for special teams as one poster pointed out. No wonder our rankings are stellar in special teams play. Now, you will see a couple of jackasses put laughing emojis as their way of being passive aggressive. 

[Slow yer Roll]

Well to be fair we don't have any aggressive aggressive emojis to work with.

[huskerfan74]

Thanks for proving me right and admitting what you are. 

[San Diego Husker]

On 12/12/2021 at 11:46 AM, Hedley Lamarr said:

I've had a similar hunch lately. He's one of the very few you haven't heard much from. 

I don't think NU needs two LB coaches. when Frost first arrived here, NCAA only allowed 9 assistants not the current 10.  so we hired Rudd with that 10th spot.  so, what i am suggesting let one of the existing LB coaches, coach the whole group.  either re-assign one of the coaches to an open spot (RB or ST) or simply $hit can one of the current LB coaches.  Then hire both a dedicated ST coach and a RB coach.  if the ST coach has spare time with their duties they can assist with the LB's or something.  However their primary duties would be ST.

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by San Diego Husker
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