Red Five Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 15 hours ago, The Dude said: Started looking at the stats for when Whipple first started at Pitt That was a god awful offense 118th in rushing yards/carry 103rd in passing yards/attempt 106th in total yards/play 112th in points/game Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Red Five said: That was a god awful offense 118th in rushing yards/carry 103rd in passing yards/attempt 106th in total yards/play 112th in points/game To be fair to Whipple, he inherited a pretty bad offense, which ranked in the bottom 25% in scoring offense in 2017 and 2018. 2 Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said: To be fair to Whipple, he inherited a pretty bad offense, which ranked in the bottom 25% in scoring offense in 2017 and 2018. Pitt's yards/play ranking 2017 Shawn Watson 94th 2018 Shawn Watson 59th 2019 Mark Whipple 106th 2020 Mark Whipple 96th 2021 Mark Whipple 25th Interestingly, Frost's yards/play ranking since he started at NU: 20th, 72nd, 72nd, 18th 1 Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Pitt's points/game ranking 2017 Shawn Watson 101st 2018 Shawn Watson 94th 2019 Mark Whipple 112th 2020 Mark Whipple 58th 2021 Mark Whipple 3rd Frost's points/game ranking since he started at NU: 58th, 72nd, 101st, 71st 1 1 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red Five said: Pitt's yards/play ranking 2017 Shawn Watson 94th 2018 Shawn Watson 59th 2019 Mark Whipple 106th 2020 Mark Whipple 96th 2021 Mark Whipple 25th Interestingly, Frost's yards/play ranking since he started at NU: 20th, 72nd, 72nd, 18th I'm not going to pretend that I have any knowledge on Pitt football over the past 5-7 years. I do know that Pat Narduzzi is a defensive-minded coach, who has had middling success. I have no idea about the talent level on offense for those Pitt teams before 2021. In 2021, with an experienced QB and talent at skill positions, Whipple was able to have a very good/great offense, which was the basis for Pitt's best season under Narduzzi. Based on Narduzzi's recent comments, he wasn't sad for Whipple to leave, because Pitt wasn't winning "his way" (lower scoring, defense oriented games, running the ball). I have no idea if Whipple will be successful here, but I think he has good pieces to make it work here. With his age, this is probably Whipple's last stop in college football, and who knows how long he is looking to last at NU. 1 Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red Five said: Pitt's points/game ranking 2017 Shawn Watson 101st 2018 Shawn Watson 94th 2019 Mark Whipple 112th 2020 Mark Whipple 58th 2021 Mark Whipple 3rd Frost's points/game ranking since he started at NU: 58th, 72nd, 101st, 71st I think we are all aware that Frost's offenses have performed well in moving the ball, but have underachieved in scoring points. Looking at the stats from 2020 and 2021, it shows that Whipple's scoring offense outperforms the yardage offense. Sam McKewon has pointed out that Whipple's offenses have done a very good/great job of throwing TD passes inside the red zone. Any Nebraska fan can tell you that was a weakness under Frost/Martinez. Was Whipple's success due to a future NFL QB (Pickett) or was it Whipple's offense that made Pickett into a star? That's the question we are all trying to figure out. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 @BigRedBuster I like that trend line for the defense, at least... 1 Quote Link to comment
Farms Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said: I wonder how many 3-9 teams have had their offense average 5 ppg more than their defense. 1 Quote Link to comment
Archy1221 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Farms said: I wonder how many 3-9 teams have had their offense average 5 ppg more than their defense. That’s a pretty interesting call out. Quote Link to comment
Pedro G Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said: I'm not going to pretend that I have any knowledge on Pitt football over the past 5-7 years. I do know that Pat Narduzzi is a defensive-minded coach, who has had middling success. I have no idea about the talent level on offense for those Pitt teams before 2021. In 2021, with an experienced QB and talent at skill positions, Whipple was able to have a very good/great offense, which was the basis for Pitt's best season under Narduzzi. Based on Narduzzi's recent comments, he wasn't sad for Whipple to leave, because Pitt wasn't winning "his way" (lower scoring, defense oriented games, running the ball). I have no idea if Whipple will be successful here, but I think he has good pieces to make it work here. With his age, this is probably Whipple's last stop in college football, and who knows how long he is looking to last at NU. Depending on this season’s success, if this works out with Wipple, and MJ sticks around, I tend to think Mickey would be the next OC. But if this season is a total failure, then who knows what happens all the way around. Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Farms said: I wonder how many 3-9 teams have had their offense average 5 ppg more than their defense. Against FBS teams, it's only about a 1.6 PPG advantage, and pretty much all of that is just from the Northwestern blowout. If you also exclude Northwestern, we scored 22.7 PPG vs giving up 25.8 PPG. 1 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Red Five said: Pitt's yards/play ranking 2017 Shawn Watson 94th 2018 Shawn Watson 59th 2019 Mark Whipple 106th 2020 Mark Whipple 96th 2021 Mark Whipple 25th Interestingly, Frost's yards/play ranking since he started at NU: 20th, 72nd, 72nd, 18th A lot of Riley guys Not too shabby Quote Link to comment
admo Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Red Five said: Pitt's points/game ranking 2017 Shawn Watson 101st 2018 Shawn Watson 94th 2019 Mark Whipple 112th 2020 Mark Whipple 58th 2021 Mark Whipple 3rd Frost's points/game ranking since he started at NU: 58th, 72nd, 101st, 71st More from Riley's guys Even though Riley receives a lot of blame... maybe he deserves some credit? Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 20 hours ago, The Dude said: It also wouldn't indicate he's a run-first coordinator, if 50/50 was his track record (it's not). Every year at Pitt he passed the ball more than he ran it, to varying degrees. Which is okay. I thought that's what people wanted? I thought it was the only way to win in today's game? And now it's controversial to talk about? We're supposed to pretend that he's really a run-first coordinator (for some weird reason) but he just passes more due to extenuating circumstances? Nonsense! I have yet to see a single post on this board claiming Whipple is a run first coordinator. At most many have pointed out that Whipple is usually around 50-50 or 55-45 pass to run ratio; everyone gets that they will pass more, but most expect him to lean more towards a 50-50 spilt more so this season based on the team makeup. 2 Quote Link to comment
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