Guy Chamberlin Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dogs In A Pile said: No. https://cfbnumbers.substack.com/p/a-numbers-nightmare-the-tragedy-of https://collegefootballdata.com So what they're saying is: take away the turnovers, penalties, and human prejudice, and advanced metrics are perfectly capable of being incredibly wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 And it's not like turnovers and penalties aren't a metric. You can plug them in like any statistic. Turnovers and penalties have generally been considered a major influence on outcomes, not to mention an indicator of team discipline. 1 Quote Link to comment
NoLongerN Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Husker_Bohunk said: Teams that commit lots of penalties and turn the ball over to many times are NOT good teams. It doesn't matter if your offense puts up a 1000 yards per game if you turn it over 5 or 6 times a game. Obvious for $1000 Quote Link to comment
Hilltop Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Husker_Bohunk said: Our record indicates we've been a crap team that can't win. You can point to all the stats on offense/defense that you want but by far the most important stat is the Win/Loss column. And that stat is crap. When those other stats start to translate into wins then they might mean something but until then pointing to stats that "show we are much better than our record indicates" is nothing more than pointing to moral victories. I get your point but the stats do mean something. We have done a lot right and truly were very close last year. I think that plays a pretty big part in offseason motivation, some players decisions to stay, Frost getting another year, and recruiting. It also added immensely to the entertainment value of the games. Heartbreaking in the end but most of the games last year were exciting to watch- at least up until Minnesota. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Cigarman Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Whose expectations are these? Official CFB prognosticators? Las Vegas? The other way to look at this is that expectations for Nebraska have remained high, even a generation after the Glory Years. Unreasonably high? I mean, me and Las Vegas just assumed Scott Frost could do four games better than Mike Riley with the same raw materials. For that matter, everyone figured Mike Riley finally had the pieces in place to build on his 9 win season in 2016. Bo Pelini had too many wins to show much win improvement, but every year his team was ranked higher in pre-season than it finished. Hard to accept, but the media has had a pro-Nebraska bias for years. I guess you are right. We are expecting too much from a Scott Frost team. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Dogs In A Pile Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Cigarman said: I guess you are right. We are expecting too much from a Scott Frost team. Exactly. If this analysis is wrong as some are claiming and the statement in the article "A 3-9 season that should have been a whole lot better!" is hogwash then maybe 3-9 is exactly where we should have ended up. Even with all the close games and the ones we literally gave away. Doesn't bode well for the future at all. 1 Quote Link to comment
DefenderAO Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Not sure what is worse - the fact we're the worst against expected wins overall or, through any scheduling stretch for any era, world, or dimension, Iowa State had a stretch of more expected wins than Nebraska. Troy Davis is smiling. 1 Quote Link to comment
San Diego Husker Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I'm telling you this is the curse of Bo, if they fire me they will never win anything again... not sure when he said it, i think it was after the big12 CG or right before SE fired him for being a hot head and a good coach at the same time (who would love 8-9 wins a season right now?). The best improvement to NU's athletic programs was firing (um, sorry... retiring) of Harvey Pearlman... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
hunter49 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 as they say, we are the best 3-9 team in football. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 5:37 PM, San Diego Husker said: I'm telling you this is the curse of Bo, if they fire me they will never win anything again... not sure when he said it, i think it was after the big12 CG or right before SE fired him for being a hot head and a good coach at the same time (who would love 8-9 wins a season right now?). The best improvement to NU's athletic programs was firing (um, sorry... retiring) of Harvey Pearlman... It's always worth reminding folks that Bo Pelini had one of the worst records against ranked teams of any P5 coach, went on to get fired as HC at the lower pressure, more forgiving Youngstown State, before flaming out at LSU for one historically bad statistical season in his return as DC. Bo Pelini cursed himself. Nebraska is on its second HC, third AD, and has had a new non-Perleman chancellor for 7 years now. The last thing we need to blame is superstition. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
hskrfan4life Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said: Nebraska is on its second HC and third AD, and the last thing we need to blame is superstition. Which is why I hope we get Trev to stay for a long time. Would love some continuity. 1 Quote Link to comment
ndobney Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Putting my money on 4 or less wins next year lost our d line and who going to block on offense we hit 5 wins I'll be impressed Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Huskers vs Expected Wins Every time I see that title I can’t help but think about Taylor Martinez playing vs road games 1 Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I'm an idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment
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