84HuskerLaw Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I believe the Blackshirts jerseys are not = to being a starter on defense. You don’t have to be, technically a starter either though it is fairly unusual to have such. The Blackshirt awarded to defensive players (now and then a punter or kick returner I believe as well) is a high honor bestowed to those very special, extraordinary defenders who play at the highest level of defensive football commensurate with great Blackshirt defenders of Husker history. It’s a very selective group. I tend to think in some cases a shirt may be withheld for a time from a starter who, in the minds of the selectors, is not playing up to his potential. A Blackshirt gives 110% effort and encourages others to do likewise as a great, proud teammate! There can be more or less than 11 on a given team, at a given time during a season. I’ve never been a Blackshirt of course but having read and listened to many over the decades, I do believe this at least partially explains what it is to get and be a Husker Blackshirt. I always felt a similar type status symbol or insignia or something could be established for the offensive side too. It’s much more than being a ‘letterman’ with an N to sew onto your school sweater or jacket, though those used to be a significant award to proudly display. Just my feelings. Some real Blackshirts can better express it of course. But it’s a fraternal like club whose membership must be earned and deserved and is not given by default. If you are a starter but not playing at a high enough level to be deserving, you won’t receive it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Huskerfollower4life Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Is Garrett Nelson technically a linebacker or did he do a position switch to defensive end?? I ask bc if I remember correctly he has always been a linebacker in a de role or does he play a hybrid position? Quote Link to comment
AlaSker Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said: Is Garrett Nelson technically a linebacker or did he do a position switch to defensive end?? I ask bc if I remember correctly he has always been a linebacker in a de role or does he play a hybrid position? EDGE Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Huskerfollower4life said: Is Garrett Nelson technically a linebacker or did he do a position switch to defensive end?? I ask bc if I remember correctly he has always been a linebacker in a de role or does he play a hybrid position? Outside linebacker, although that group is now described as 'edge'. Quote Link to comment
Huskerfollower4life Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Toe said: Outside linebacker, although that group is now described as 'edge'. Thank you Toe. So say he improves his play this year and turns into a NFL caliber player what position do you think teams would draft him???? I ask bc Nebraska tends to put guys in the best position to help the team but not necessarily the best position for the player. I could name several players that played q certain position for Nebraska only to turn around and not play that position in the NFL. I wonder why that is??? Quote Link to comment
admo Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 11 hours ago, Huskerfollower4life said: Is Garrett Nelson technically a linebacker or did he do a position switch to defensive end?? I ask bc if I remember correctly he has always been a linebacker in a de role or does he play a hybrid position? He's not big enough and/or quick enough to be a defensive end. He's not athletic enough to be an outside linebacker (which includes short coverage in space, solid tackling on the perimeter, blitzing....). He play edge tho. Go Big Red! Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 @Huskerfollower4life Eh, I wouldn't read too much into guys changing positions when they get to the next level. It's something that happens all over the place, both high schoolers when they get to college and college players when they get to the NFL. I mean Frost played defensive back in the NFL, do you think that means Osborne was misusing him as a quarterback? 1 Quote Link to comment
Huskerfollower4life Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, Toe said: @Huskerfollower4life Eh, I wouldn't read too much into guys changing positions when they get to the next level. It's something that happens all over the place, both high schoolers when they get to college and college players when they get to the NFL. I mean Frost played defensive back in the NFL, do you think that means Osborne was misusing him as a quarterback? True i just tend to think that Nebraska struggles in that area to identify were to put certain players. Like Nick Gates he is playing center in the NFL but played tackle in college usually when I look at that i start thinking wait what he didn't have the necessary lateral quickness or bend to play that position at all. For Scott Frost yes he played qb in college but you could tell he had about as good of throwing motion as Taylor Martinez so you knew he wasn't going to play thay position just seems like the skill guys that Nebraska has produced have turned up in other positions thats all. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Huskerfollower4life said: True i just tend to think that Nebraska struggles in that area to identify were to put certain players. Like Nick Gates he is playing center in the NFL but played tackle in college usually when I look at that i start thinking wait what he didn't have the necessary lateral quickness or bend to play that position at all. For Scott Frost yes he played qb in college but you could tell he had about as good of throwing motion as Taylor Martinez so you knew he wasn't going to play thay position just seems like the skill guys that Nebraska has produced have turned up in other positions thats all. Happens all the time. One of the most sought-after OT prospects the Huskers have been in on over the last two decades (Andrus Peat) played OT in college but guard in the NFL. Pretty much none of the Pipeline OTs from the 90s played OT in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment
desertshox Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Mavric said: Happens all the time. One of the most sought-after OT prospects the Huskers have been in on over the last two decades (Andrus Peat) played OT in college but guard in the NFL. Pretty much none of the Pipeline OTs from the 90s played OT in the NFL. To add to that, the player also has to be agreeable to playing the position too. 1 Quote Link to comment
suh_fan93 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 More to follow in the weeks to come. Per SF returning guys will be the first to receive their Blackshirts. 4 Quote Link to comment
Husker in WI Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, suh_fan93 said: More to follow in the weeks to come. Per SF returning guys will be the first to receive their Blackshirts. If the defense performs as expected, I'd bet on Mathis and Hill having them by Oklahoma. Probably the nickel too, if one separates. Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 well I hit on the under Quote Link to comment
Huskerfollower4life Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 I knew that Eric Chinander was going to do that bc that's what he said he was going to do. Can't say I like it very much. Just feel like certain guys the so called newcomers should have received them as well. If they are playing like a blackshirt in practice then why not hand them out for the first game? Also congrats to the guys that got them. 2 Quote Link to comment
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