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5 minutes ago, Scarlet said:

I'm curious as to if this has to do with women forced to give birth in instances where her life is in danger OR if it's simply that states where abortions are banned tend to be poor and have worse Healthcare outcomes across the board.

 

I'm assuming it's the latter.

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1 minute ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

I'm curious as to if this has to do with women forced to give birth in instances where her life is in danger OR if it's simply that states where abortions are banned tend to be poor and have worse Healthcare outcomes across the board.

 

I'm assuming it's the latter.

I'm assuming it's the latter too, since these laws just recently changed and I don't think they would have accurate data yet as to the affects of the law change.

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7 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I'm assuming it's the latter too, since these laws just recently changed and I don't think they would have accurate data yet as to the affects of the law change.

It would be wild if the government tried to expand healthcare access to help the citizens in those poor states have longer, healthier lives.

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

It would be wild if the government tried to expand healthcare access to help the citizens in those poor states have longer, healthier lives.

States have Medicaid and doesn’t Obamacare have subsidies that basically pay almost all of the premiums for people under a certain income level?  

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10 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

States have Medicaid and doesn’t Obamacare have subsidies that basically pay almost all of the premiums for people under a certain income level?  

Some states, like Nebraska, refused to expand medicaid to help provide healthcare to low income people.  They finally did in October 2021.  But, there are still some states that haven't.  

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/

Interestingly, the ones that haven't expanded medicaid, are towards the bottom in infant mortality.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm

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19 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Some states, like Nebraska, refused to expand medicaid to help provide healthcare to low income people.  They finally did in October 2021.  But, there are still some states that haven't.  

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/

Interestingly, the ones that haven't expanded medicaid, are towards the bottom in infant mortality.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm

So, do  Obamacare insurance and subsidies not apply to those folks? 

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21 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Interestingly, the ones that haven't expanded medicaid, are towards the bottom in infant mortality.

 

 

That's gotta be a coincidence! No way giving greater access to healthcare results in better health outcomes for citizens. No way.

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23 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Some states, like Nebraska, refused to expand medicaid to help provide healthcare to low income people.  They finally did in October 2021.  But, there are still some states that haven't.  

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/

Interestingly, the ones that haven't expanded medicaid, are towards the bottom in infant mortality.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm

Also, couldnt the CHIPS program possibly cover those kids whose families don’t qualify for Medicaid?  
 

One component to infant mortality rates and the abortion component that axios is writing about and they don’t consider.   Infant mortality is death between birth and age 1.  
 

States that have vastly more prolife citizens are more likely to take a baby to term knowing the baby may only live a few months, but the parents believe the child deserves those few months of life.  In other states, those babies may have been a aborted.  Right, wrong, or indifferent, those cases really have nothing to do with the abortion causing higher infant mortality in the traditional way of thinking (that it’s riskier to go through pregnancy).  
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Also, couldnt the CHIPS program possibly cover those kids whose families don’t qualify for Medicaid?  
 

One component to infant mortality rates and the abortion component that axios is writing about and they don’t consider.   Infant mortality is death between birth and age 1.  
 

States that have vastly more prolife citizens are more likely to take a baby to term knowing the baby may only live a few months, but the parents believe the child deserves those few months of life.  In other states, those babies may have been a aborted.  Right, wrong, or indifferent, those cases really have nothing to do with the abortion causing higher infant mortality in the traditional way of thinking (that it’s riskier to go through pregnancy).  
 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

So, do  Obamacare insurance and subsidies not apply to those folks? 

I'm not an expert on the entire system.  But, there's a reason why most states expanded Medicaid.  That was to cover people who weren't covered.

 

And, as I said above, I don't believe changes in the abortion laws have affected these stats because the laws are too new to have statistics like this on how those laws are affecting this.

 

Your last paragraph is a valid point.  But, I don't believe that tells the entire story.  And, it's a fact that better prenatal healthcare improves infant mortality.

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What has been the impact of Medicaid expansion?

The Menges Group is a national consulting firm that’s focused on finding ways to better serve high-risk populations. The Menges Group did a study to compare states that adopted Medicaid Expansion with states that did not. Key findings from the Menges Group study,Opens in a new tab3published in August 2021, include:

  • More than 9 million people who would otherwise be uninsured got coverage through Medicaid Expansion.
  • From 2013–2019, the share of Medicaid costs that states pay increased less in states that expanded Medicaid compared to those that did not (19.5% versus 26.4%).
  • Medicaid expansion helped lower the COVID-19 death rate among people aged 18–64.
  • Hospital revenues appear to have increased considerably in states with Medicaid expansion.

 

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2 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

States have Medicaid and doesn’t Obamacare have subsidies that basically pay almost all of the premiums for people under a certain income level?  

WHAT?

 

They better sue to stop this level of government overreach! Republicans need to repeal and replace this immediately! 

 

If they get to my healthcare, the creep of Stalinist-Socialism better not touch my Social Security, the slippery-slope of Marxisism-Lenninism better stay out of my states' farm subsidies and you better bet I'll vote for Ron DeSantis if the cabal of Bolshevism loving Democrats bring big government into my grandparents Medicaid services. 

 

This is why our secular founding fathers granted me the God given right to buy an AR-15. Big government isn't going to get me! 

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