huskerfan99 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: I also hope they give Gundy a hard look... I guarantee he'd listen He’d listen just to get a raise. He does this every cycle it seems. 1 1 1 Link to comment
PasstheDamnBallGuy Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, gorp512 said: He took two programs that were decimated by sanctions and ineptitude and got them rolling. He's exactly this What actual sanctions did he face at Baylor? Link to comment
gorp512 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said: What actual sanctions did he face at Baylor? The guillotine hanging over his head while there was almost more than what came after he left. They had one recruit when he got there. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/baylor-coach-matt-rhule-lands-nearly-30-recruits-amid-scandal-scarred-times 2 Link to comment
TonkaSker Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Farms said: Rhule has turned around not one, but two programs that were in the absolute $s#!tter, similar to where we are now. Campbell seems that he may have peaked at Iowa State. Contrarily, Rhule won 10 games with Temple and left for a better job, then did the same at Baylor. I think it’s reasonable to believe Rhule may have surpassed the accomplishments Campbell had at ISU had he stayed there. For the record I’m not saying I personally prefer one to the other but I could see how Rhule would be viewed as the better hire. it’s possible (and probable if you look at the context) that it says more about the two programs and not the two coaches. Not all wins are created equal Link to comment
TonkaSker Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Bad2theBONES said: Next best is Shawn Peyton. Doubt he would ever leave NFl, but make him a a ridiculous offer and give it a chance. He could bring top recruits in like Urban. Sean Payton, known for his recruiting prowess 1 Link to comment
gorp512 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, TonkaSker said: it’s possible (and probable if you look at the context) that it says more about the two programs and not the two coaches. Not all wins are created equal It's three programs. Rhule did it once and then did it again Link to comment
chamrocck Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Urban is the clear leader. Other guys next up: Stoops (Bob, then Mark) Dave Aranda Mike Gundy Chris Petersen Next level down: Matt Campbell Matt Rhule Dan Mullen Bill O’Brien Wild cards if this goes on way too long: Deion Sanders Jon Gruden 5 Link to comment
PasstheDamnBallGuy Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, gorp512 said: The guillotine hanging over his head while there was almost more than what came after he left. They had one recruit when he got there. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/baylor-coach-matt-rhule-lands-nearly-30-recruits-amid-scandal-scarred-times Oh yeah forgot about that class. Definitely props to Rhule for getting that class together like that, and I definitely think that the sanctions hanging over the program probably limited his recruiting ceiling. Just to still play devil's advocate here that class that had to be hastily put together would rank among the top classes all time at Iowa State still. Like I said in another post I think both these coaches can be successful here I just dont think they are very far apart. Link to comment
TonkaSker Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 29 minutes ago, gorp512 said: It's three programs. Rhule did it once and then did it again Not arguing against Rhule, I’m a believer. My point was that Iowa State is a far more difficult place to take to that high gear than Baylor. Temple is even easier since every program in the AAC is at risk of losing their coach as soon as they show progress. I see both guys as proven program builders. 2 2 Link to comment
TonkaSker Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, chamrocck said:Wild cards if this goes on way too long: Jon Gruden FOLKS, We’ve officially crossed the threshold. 2 1 1 Link to comment
gorp512 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, TonkaSker said: Not arguing against Rhule, I’m a believer. My point was that Iowa State is a far more difficult place to take to that high gear than Baylor. Temple is even easier since every program in the AAC is at risk of losing their coach as soon as they show progress. I see both guys as proven program builders. Totally agree. Funny thing is that Temple is kinda a starting place for some good, big name coaches. Al Golden, Rhule, Adazzio, Geoff Collins. Manny Diaz was even the coach there for a few weeks before Miami came calling him back. That AD is at Penn State now. 1 Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, gorp512 said: Totally agree. Funny thing is that Temple is kinda a starting place for some good, big name coaches. Al Golden, Rhule, Adazzio, Geoff Collins. Manny Diaz was even the coach there for a few weeks before Miami came calling him back. That AD is at Penn State now. I am sensing a theme with those old Temple coaches Golden - fired after going 32-25 at Miami Adazzio - fired after going 44-44 at BC, fired after going 4-12 at CSU Collins - gonna be fired soon since he’s 10-27 at GT 1 Link to comment
gorp512 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Red Five said: I am sensing a theme with those old Temple coaches Golden - fired after going 32-25 at Miami Adazzio - fired after going 44-44 at BC, fired after going 4-12 at CSU Collins - gonna be fired soon since he’s 10-27 at GT Diaz also fired But they all got the bag! Link to comment
walksalone Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 And now enter Herm Edwards...lol 1 1 Link to comment
Red Five Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Kliff Kingsbury might be available soon 1 Link to comment
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