Popular Post Alamo City Husker Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 Regardless of the NW game out come, this "sky is falling", "doomer" mentality from the majority of fanbase, after one game; is so disappointing. The entire reason we got in this "privileged winning" fanbase mentality to begin with was university leadership not understanding culture and prioritizing winning over tenure and program stability. So we finally get a loyal af homegrown coach and AD, and wanna throw loyal coach away after the first game of the season? I'm old enough on Huskerboard to remember the threads about "what if" we had fired Osborne? Or the years of the alleged Husker curse for firing Frank Solich? Then the "karen" firing of Pelini by admins that will not be mentioned? Just saying, is this a game or a idolatry for some of you? Perspective. I say this having to deal with Cowboys fan haters on the daily. The Good Lord taught me not to Crucify anyone I can't raise from the dead. Just saying. 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Lorewarn Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Alamo City Husker said: So we finally get a loyal af homegrown coach and AD, and wanna throw loyal coach away after the first game of the season? No, people wanna throw the loyal coach away after 45 games, 15 of which we've won, over five years. Five years - zero bowl games. Five years - two wins against teams with winning records. Five years - 5-21 in one-score games Five years - 30 losses, most of which are the results of acts of self-sabotage by our head coach himself. Can you name me one great coach in the last 80 years of football who had 15 wins in five years? 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 While I agree the knee jerk reaction from this loss is a bit overblown (Northwestern is probably a good team this year) it's not just the first game of the season that has caused it. It's a body of work for 5+ years, and basically the worst resume in Husker coaching history. Frost has earned every ounce of this. He needs to find a way to win and win big the rest of the season. He's basically where Harbaugh was at last season. Native son can't save you from 5+ years of s#!t. It doesn't take that long to turn a program around and this is his last chance. 6 1 Quote Link to comment
Crusader Husker Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I think the biggest problem I have is the onside kick call. It just seems every 1 score loss has moment that you can point to for the loss. Sometimes it is a player issue. This one was clearly on a coach who is coaching under fire and made a desperate call. I agree, NW might be pretty good. They clearly are coached much better than our team. 1 Quote Link to comment
gorp512 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Lorewarn said: No, people wanna throw the loyal coach away after 45 games, 15 of which we've won, over five years. Five years - zero bowl games. Five years - two wins against teams with winning records. Five years - 5-21 in one-score games Five years - 30 losses, most of which are the results of acts of self-sabotage by our head coach himself. Can you name me one great coach in the last 80 years of football who had 15 wins in five years? This seems implausible at the P5 level. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Hilltop Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Alamo City Husker said: Regardless of the NW game out come, this "sky is falling", "doomer" mentality from the majority of fanbase, after one game; is so disappointing. The entire reason we got in this "privileged winning" fanbase mentality to begin with was university leadership not understanding culture and prioritizing winning over tenure and program stability. So we finally get a loyal af homegrown coach and AD, and wanna throw loyal coach away after the first game of the season? I'm old enough on Huskerboard to remember the threads about "what if" we had fired Osborne? Or the years of the alleged Husker curse for firing Frank Solich? Then the "karen" firing of Pelini by admins that will not be mentioned? Just saying, is this a game or a idolatry for some of you? Perspective. I say this having to deal with Cowboys fan haters on the daily. The Good Lord taught me not to Crucify anyone I can't raise from the dead. Just saying. Your points were very valid 2 years ago. There were legitimate excuses then. Even last year I held your point of view. I am still hopeful for a season turn around even now but the excuses are gone. That loss Saturday didn't happen because of an onside kick imo. It happened because our head coach though we needed the onside kick. The message sent to the team after that call was a lack of trust in his defense, a lack of trust in his new coaching staff, and a lack of trust in his own ability to outcoach his opponent for the last 20 minutes of the game. That call showed fear of failure and every player on the Nebraska sidelines felt it. I truly believe Scott is a great offensive mind but I no longer believe he has the ability to handle the pressure of leading Nebraska football. 7 4 Quote Link to comment
Undone Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, ZRod said: Frost has earned every ounce of this. He needs to find a way to win and win big the rest of the season. I was thinking about this: I wonder if he was maybe so surprised that we weren't blowing them out at halftime like we were last year that when we got up by 11 he felt like he had to go for the blowout or it didn't count. 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post 308_Husker Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 You don't mention the firings of Callahan and Riley. Why? Because their firings were justified since their records sucked? Frost is worse than both of those two, by a long shot. The Frost experience is an experiment that had to happen, but it just hasn't worked out. 9 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Stone Cold Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 The more i think about it, the more i see there are more and more decisions that were his fault that lead to the problems we have been having. Alot of that does seem to be arrogance he has, thinking he can somehow outsmart coaches who have been in the game alot longer than he has. He is still very young and needs to learn, either we ride this with him or boot him out at the end of the season and start over. 2 3 Quote Link to comment
NoLongerN Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I have found it refreshing to see fans speak up early. It's not like we didn't hear a large volume of "coachspeak". The bloviation continues at an alarming pace. It would have been far different if Frost was stating that the players aren't working hard, don't seem ready, etc. The reality is he sells massive improvement and then squander a lead with his same miscues. He will still get his 4-5 wins and nestle in nicely into a 4-8 or 5-7 team. He will probably be the 5-7 team of all-time if history repeats itself. Go Big Red. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
TGHusker Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I've been a loyal fan since 1970 when I was in the 8th grade. I've been there for the highest highs and the lowest lows (Brook, Miami 83). I've earned the right to be critical of where we are in this 5 year experiment. I was all for and excited for Frost's hiring. I never thought it would backfire this badly. It is time to move on. Should have done it last year and set the new coach up for success for this 'easier schedule'. Yes, we save millions by waiting past Oct 1st but there is also the cost of apathy and national perception that has to be considered. From a financial point of view it makes sense to wait, from a fan point of view, it is torture to go through this again. Let's open up the bank account and get a proven winner who can set us on the right track long term. Time to do it. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 It's not one game. It's 6 years since a bowl appearance. 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Hagg Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Well, a fan base is a lot of people, in Nebraska anyway. The "state of the fan base" then means the average feeling about things here. The feelings of the majority? Yes. I've not seen an inclusive poll yet, taken across a large number of us Husker fans, except for a few in here and other boards. If there's a consensus it's a back and forth one and yes it's leaning heavily to getting rid of Frost, finally. His defenders seem to be either quiet now or openly changing their minds. So, the state of the fan base may now be (once again) wondering if we can EVER get somebody who can year in and year out do what T.O. and B.D. did. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
TonkaSker Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Lorewarn said: Can you name me one great coach in the last 80 years of football who had 15 wins in five years? I've said this so many times and it drives the point to fire him home. If he was even an AVERAGE coach he would have the longest leash in football. He can't even manage that. 4 Quote Link to comment
Cdog923 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 My go-to response to this is now "replace 'Frost' with 'Riley', and read that back to me". 2 1 Quote Link to comment
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