Cdog923 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, runningblind said: You would think that, but look around at the level of reverance the guy had over a lot of people despite being an absolutely terrible HC. Being hung over and late explains just about everything we saw with this program. The cult of personality is a strong thing. 1 Quote Link to comment
TiredHuskerFanMWI Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 All I'll say is Frost liked not being held accountable. He loved it at UCF and he loved it under Moos. Everyone can put the two and two together. It hurts because he's one of my favorite Husker players ever. I revered him growing up and pretended to be him in the backyard. he's the reason my first ever Husker jersey was #7. He's just as flawed as all of us and it affected his results at his alma mater. There are people close enough to Frost who gave him gateways of help that can't believe he was so careless about this opportunity. It's a shame. 1 Quote Link to comment
Farms Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, Minnesota_husker said: As I am listening to this, this is the first I am hearing of some of this. Is this all known stuff that Frost wasnt committed? Anyone hear these stories? There was a fairly reliable poster on another site that had eluded to some of this quite some time ago but it seemed to get blown off. There's a lot going around now and I hate to even keep repeating it because honestly it's a moot point and it makes me want to puke. You can point to a lot of things that were red flags honestly. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 There are some truly deplorable stories out there about some of the most famous college and professional coaches in history, so it's always hard to know how seriously to take some of the rumors that float around about coaches. If some dude rages on the weekends but wins championships nobody cares. If a different dude rages on the weekends and wins four games then it's a problem. That said, the rumors I'm most unsettled by are the alleged lack of attention to details, showing up late to practices, not making recruit calls, and fostering an environment where assistants felt they needed to go to university leadership to intervene. Frankly, this is stuff I just never saw coming. Frost talked a smooth game and said a lot of the right things. We all know his history and ties to the state. I can only imagine how stressful and how much of a commitment the job takes, and how there are probably times where you just throw your hands up and maybe take a little time to yourself. But it's also something he chose and got paid incredibly well to do. You can't half-a$$ this kind of stuff and Frost appeared to understand that, but it now it sounds like quite a bit of that may have just been talk. Kind of numbing as a fan. 2 Quote Link to comment
mwj98 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 The "losing culture" comment is where I am struggling. That's a locker room issue. If that is the case, this was the right move. I heard the rumors as well and blew them off. Maybe because I was 100% behind Frost. But I kept hearing the same thing the last couple years and thought...hmmm maybe this does have legs. The one thing MJ said today that got my attention and perhaps could save the season is when he mentioned it being about those boys in the locker room. He is committed to the team. If that is the case, and the team rallies we may see something special this weekend. GBR!! 1 Quote Link to comment
NoLongerN Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 51 minutes ago, Farms said: There was a fairly reliable poster on another site that had eluded to some of this quite some time ago but it seemed to get blown off. There's a lot going around now and I hate to even keep repeating it because honestly it's a moot point and it makes me want to puke. You can point to a lot of things that were red flags honestly. It didn't matter that after going 8-13, Scott was given a two-year extension ... so regardless of what we hear, it really shouldn't matter. Scott was privileged and given every opportunity. That same entitlement will not be given to MJ. Scott is very fortunate indeed regardless of what story ever comes to light. Scott would go on to an 8-18 completion to his career after that "necessary" extension. I won't really "ditch" on him ... God help the soul that feels any need to protect him. He always abused me with his coachspeak. I'll choose to remember him by his playing days ... all the rest of it can die and leave my memory. :-) Quote Link to comment
NebraskaBison Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Enhance said: That said, the rumors I'm most unsettled by are the alleged lack of attention to details, showing up late to practices, not making recruit calls, and fostering an environment where assistants felt they needed to go to university leadership to intervene. Frankly, this is stuff I just never saw coming. Frost talked a smooth game and said a lot of the right things. We all know his history and ties to the state. I can only imagine how stressful and how much of a commitment the job takes, and how there are probably times where you just throw your hands up and maybe take a little time to yourself. But it's also something he chose and got paid incredibly well to do. You can't half-a$$ this kind of stuff and Frost appeared to understand that, but it now it sounds like quite a bit of that may have just been talk. Kind of numbing as a fan. Agreed. Yet despite ALL of that, look at how damn close we were to winning big games against good teams. Sorry to use the "close" word. Just goes to show what is possible with someone fully committed and knowledgable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Slow yer Roll Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Do you think Moos could see this coming and that's why he left? Didn't want to be a part of the s#!t show? Quote Link to comment
Popular Post knapplc Posted September 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Slow yer Roll said: Do you think Moos could see this coming and that's why he left? Didn't want to be a part of the s#!t show? It sounds like Moos was asked to leave because he was an active part of this s#!t show. 10 1 Quote Link to comment
Slow yer Roll Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Oh. No bueno. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Red Five said: Mike'l Severe airing some of the Frost dirty laundry Probably worked fine at UCF. Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Slow yer Roll said: Do you think Moos could see this coming and that's why he left? Didn't want to be a part of the s#!t show? Moos used covid to work from home permanently, which wasn't in Nebraska. Moos liked a drink or three with boosters but that's part of it and no big deal. The bigger deal was becoming an absentee AD. 1 Quote Link to comment
Axl_sued_me Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Edited September 13, 2022 by Mavric Merged threads Quote Link to comment
AlaSker Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 This is been posted two separate places, it doesn’t need its own thread 1 Quote Link to comment
TheSker Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BigRedN said: It didn't matter that after going 8-13, Scott was given a two-year extension ... so regardless of what we hear, it really shouldn't matter. Scott was privileged and given every opportunity. That same entitlement will not be given to MJ. Scott is very fortunate indeed regardless of what story ever comes to light. Scott would go on to an 8-18 completion to his career after that "necessary" extension. I won't really "ditch" on him ... God help the soul that feels any need to protect him. He always abused me with his coachspeak. I'll choose to remember him by his playing days ... all the rest of it can die and leave my memory. :-) Weird..... Quote Link to comment
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