Iowa - What Did We Learn

Decked said:
Wonder what the tune will be if we win our bowl game. If we get 8 wins I will count it as passable/acceptable. But an array of changes need to be made including personnel and staff changes alike.
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The 'ol "if only we change both coordinators and buy 22 new players in free agency, we'll be good again!" Strategy.

I agree with you, Nebraska needs to do a lot to improve. Losing to Iowa for a decade straight is embarrassing. They're dog crap and we don't belong in the field with them.
 
XtraXtra said:
I witnessed all that. It was hard for many years listening to "Osborne can't win the big one - NU's offense is a dinosaur - Can't beat faster teams like Florida State & Miami." It was hard to hear because it was mostly true at the time. I think the fan base got a scare when TO considered getting out of the unrealistic expectations here and going to Colorado, and the fans backed off a little bit on the super harsh critiques.

I like Rhule much better than any coach we've had post-Solich. I think he's open to making changes where he sees a need to & he's demonstrated that. I'd love to see Rhule coach here for many more years and see where he can take this program.
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This is the ceiling for Rhule. You are what your record says you are. Rhule is a 0.500 coach and that is all he will ever be. No money, no wishes, and no prayers are going to change that. He is a good guy and he says the right things but he has zero idea of how to fix anything. If I remember the survey from last year, most predicted a 7-5 season and here we are….7-5. Next year, 5-7 or 6-6 at best. His body language today said it all. Not one fiber of his being believed he could win and that reflected on his team. Iowa played like a team that had zero doubt they would leave Lincoln with anything but a win. I hate Iowa and I loath their fans as they are pricks (much like the guy who was giving us the finger among the stands). Unfortunately, we have to endure another 2-3 years of losing to these douchbags as Ferentz is Rhule’s daddy.
 
krc1995 said:
I don’t know how anyone could blame the players. It’s not like they woke up this season and said I want to suck
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This is the never-ending problem with reading thoughts on a sports message board. People will blame players in an effort to exonerate a coach. And if they're not trying to do that, then they are foolish to blame the players as they are a direct reflection of a coache's ability to assemble a winning team.
Coaches are paid millions to find talent and then tailor the playcalling to their abilities. The HC also is responsible for in-game strategizing in response to his opponent's chess moves on the gridiron.
If a player can't hack it, and the coach won't/can't replace him, the HC is to blame for the loss. Weak people employ the excuse "they have advantages over us". If Indiana wins it all, it won't be because they have built in advantages over USC; Ohio State; Florida; Penn State; Oregon; Texas; Oklahoma; Alabama; Georgia; etc etc etc.
It will be because of superior coaching. Just like K-State got a shot in the arm with Snyder. Wisconsin got a shot in the arm with Alvarez. Penn State succeeded because of Pedoterno. We succeeded because Tom was better than his rivals. Coaching is the X factor.
"It was Mark Cuban!" Nope, you place Jirk Ferentz at Indiana with Cuban's money and he maybe wins 8 games this year. That would be his ceiling. But it's not Cignetti's ceiling, because he is a better coach.
 
gobiggergoredder said:
I actually said to myself today “if Rhule could win this Iowa game, I’d ignore my concerns”. They didn’t. I don’t care about the bowl. This season was/is trash.

Ek showed us what good coaching can do. Rhule got an extension and people are already calling for him to make staff changes. That’d be his 3rd staff. These are the guys the “program builder” picks. Ek was identified by Will Compton.

I have no confidence in Rhule at this point. I hope he can turn it around because we are stuck with him and I don’t think I can hang on much longer. I’m 46 years old and I skipped 2 games this year in protest. Sounds lame and dramatic but I’m just tired of it. I feel like we are being taken advantage of as loyal fans.
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I’m gonna be honest I skipped about 4 or 5 this year. Usually the ones where I was raging were the only ones I was in!
 
Decked said:
I’m gonna be honest I skipped about 4 or 5 this year. Usually the ones where I was raging were the only ones I was in!
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I went to Minnesota. There’s been some lows over the last two decades, but that was my rock bottom. I had to take a few weeks off.

Nebraska is my home. I’m proud to say I’m from here. I was so embarrassed to be in red in Minneapolis.
 
huskerfan74 said:
This is the ceiling for Rhule. You are what your record says you are. Rhule is a 0.500 coach and that is all he will ever be. No money, no wishes, and no prayers are going to change that. He is a good guy and he says the right things but he has zero idea of how to fix anything. If I remember the survey from last year, most predicted a 7-5 season and here we are….7-5. Next year, 5-7 or 6-6 at best. His body language today said it all. Not one fiber of his being believed he could win and that reflected on his team. Iowa played like a team that had zero doubt they would leave Lincoln with anything but a win. I hate Iowa and I loath their fans as they are pricks (much like the guy who was giving us the finger among the stands). Unfortunately, we have to endure another 2-3 years of losing to these douchbags as Ferentz is Rhule’s daddy.
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The extension should never happen in mid season. I think it detracts from what the coach is doing. He gets all caught up in the $ and it distracts from him doing his job. That is on whomever extended it. Now the other thing about an extension, it needs to have conditions attached. You don't give money out if the receiver isn't going to perform. Should have been if you don't win, you don't get the cash. You need to perform to x or y level or you are gone. If you are gone, no buyout. Most companies would do this, why not for a college coach who is an employee of sorts?
 
Mavric said:
It's not terrible. But it's a long ways from the year-three bump most were counting on. Especially when three of our losses were pretty ugly.
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And no growth- except on special teams. The eye test says “what on the hell have we been doing”.

But I guess we are going to 2 straight bowl games-so there’s that
 
Mavric said:
It's not terrible. But it's a long ways from the year-three bump most were counting on. Especially when three of our losses were pretty ugly.
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That's what I was thinking about before this game; people have talked a lot on the forum about "why can't we do what Curt Cignetti is doing?"

And it's like, why can't Rhule just pull off the third year results here that he pulled off at Temple and Baylor?

And I'm seriously asking what the reasons are? Is it that it's so much harder to win at NU or in the Big 10?

Or is it just that Temple & Baylor were "lightning in a bottle," seemingly how year 2 at UCF was lightning in a bottle for Frost?
 
Undone said:
That's what I was thinking about before this game; people have talked a lot on the forum about "why can't we do what Curt Cignetti is doing?"

And it's like, why can't Rhule just pull off the third year results here that he pulled off at Temple and Baylor?

And I'm seriously asking what the reasons are? Is it that it's so much harder to win at NU or in the Big 10?

Or is it just that Temple & Baylor were "lightning in a bottle," seemingly how year 2 at UCF was lightning in a bottle for Frost?
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Really, even just not laying an egg at Minnesota would have felt better. Getting boat-raced in the last two would still suck but it would be easier to point to some injuries and lack of a DL.

No one would be doing cartwheels about 8-4 but with two close losses to Top 25 teams would at least somewhat balance out two poor showings to end the season. Plus the chance to get to #9wins for the first time in a long time.

But getting our asses kicked in Minneapolis is unexplainable.
 
Mavric said:
Really, even just not laying an egg at Minnesota would have felt better. Getting boat-raced in the last two would still suck but it would be easier to point to some injuries and lack of a DL.

No one would be doing cartwheels about 8-4 but with two close losses to Top 25 teams would at least somewhat balance out two poor showings to end the season. Plus the chance to get to #9wins for the first time in a long time.

But getting our asses kicked in Minneapolis is unexplainable.
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Completely agree with all of this.

What's really crazy about Minnesota also was, did you notice how after tHolgorsen only gave Johnson 14 carries in that one, he then goes on to feed him the ball like crazy in the following games?

Hard to get your head around.
 
Undone said:
That's what I was thinking about before this game; people have talked a lot on the forum about "why can't we do what Curt Cignetti is doing?"

And it's like, why can't Rhule just pull off the third year results here that he pulled off at Temple and Baylor?

And I'm seriously asking what the reasons are? Is it that it's so much harder to win at NU or in the Big 10?

Or is it just that Temple & Baylor were "lightning in a bottle," seemingly how year 2 at UCF was lightning in a bottle for Frost?
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He just isn't that good of a coach, and he isn't coaching like his team plays in the Big 10.
 
krc1995 said:
They also don’t roster themselves. What a terrible look to feel entitled to puke on a guys because your feelings are hurt. If you’re going to be a fan, have some dignity

And most don’t get paid much.
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It’s a terrible look for a poster to think another’s feelings are hurt because one is critical of the play on the field of players that are getting paid for their performance.


Unless of course you consider it to be “entitled to puke on guys because your feelings are hurt” when talking about the coaching staff which of course you do here. I mean, because someone said once said if you are going to be a fan, have some dignity.

However, I am of the belief that If you are going to be a fan, understand that you don’t have to cheer for subpar performance and it has nothing to do with dignity 🤦‍♂️.
 
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