30 for 30 on the 1984 Orange Bowl?

[The Dude]

I'd like to see a doc on the 90s run. Warts and all. It's not like that stuff wasn't part of it.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

You have to remember its eSECpn. Nebraska has never got much respect from that bunch of SEC lovers.

Well except for the fact that ESPN's college football experts placed two Nebraska teams in their all-time Top 3, and Chris Fowler and Lee Corso appear in our very own Legacy Video, endorsing Nebraska as the best gameday experience and best fans in all of college football.

ESPN also pumped Suh over Tebow in the 2009 Heisman race, made Jack Hoffman and Nebraska the single best moment of the sporting year at last year's ESPY'S, and has filled this years highlight reels with plays by Nebraska players.

But whatever....

 

[T_O_Bull]

Well that ought to be depressing to watch.

didn't we get enough of miami in "the u"?
this is cool though. but i wish they would do one on our run in the 90's. talk about the walk-on program, s&c program, the blackshirts, the pipeline. there is a ton there.

You have to remember its eSECpn. Nebraska has never got much respect from that bunch of SEC lovers. TO was a bland interview and Bobby Bowden was glib and funny.Even now they (Especially Danny Kannel) act like FSU was the dominate team of the 90ies and that's just not true when you look at the numbers and especially the

National Championships.

T_O_B

none of the teams mentioned in your post or this thread are in the sec.

That doesn't detract from the fact that eSECpn has a negative bias against Nebraska and a favorable bias for the SEC a conference that they are also in bed with financially. Tired of having a 30 year old

wound reopened. Why do we never hear of the '71 Neb vr Ok Game of the Century, the '95 Orange Bowl or the '96 fiesta Bowl. Why is LP always referred to as. "former Nebraska running back Lawrence

Phillips" when he was long gone from Lincoln when he committed his worst offences? Adrian Peterson is after all referred to as Vikings running back rather than former Oklahoma running back. I will reserve my final comments until I view the 30 - 30 piece. Unfortunately I'm not very optimistic.

T_O_B

 

[RedRedJarvisRedwine]

Aahhh 1984. I remember it as if it were 30 years ago.

 

[Paul in WI]

Well that ought to be depressing to watch.

didn't we get enough of miami in "the u"?
this is cool though. but i wish they would do one on our run in the 90's. talk about the walk-on program, s&c program, the blackshirts, the pipeline. there is a ton there.

You have to remember its eSECpn. Nebraska has never got much respect from that bunch of SEC lovers. TO was a bland interview and Bobby Bowden was glib and funny.Even now they (Especially Danny Kannel) act like FSU was the dominate team of the 90ies and that's just not true when you look at the numbers and especially the

National Championships.

T_O_B

none of the teams mentioned in your post or this thread are in the sec.

That doesn't detract from the fact that eSECpn has a negative bias against Nebraska and a favorable bias for the SEC a conference that they are also in bed with financially. Tired of having a 30 year old

wound reopened. Why do we never hear of the '71 Neb vr Ok Game of the Century, the '95 Orange Bowl or the '96 fiesta Bowl. Why is LP always referred to as. "former Nebraska running back Lawrence

Phillips" when he was long gone from Lincoln when he committed his worst offences? Adrian Peterson is after all referred to as Vikings running back rather than former Oklahoma running back. I will reserve my final comments until I view the 30 - 30 piece. Unfortunately I'm not very optimistic.

T_O_B

Actually, you do make a good point about all of the "former Nebraska xxxxxx" references. Let me toss in Richie Incognito as just one of the more current/irritating examples of that sort. Perhaps the references are made because the national media realizes that we are proud to claim that we have a relatively clean program, and that is their little dig to show that our program is as dirty as any. Your point about Adrian Peterson is a fine example of that double standard. I've no doubt that if he was one of ours, he would be referred to as "Vikings and former University of Nebraska running back Adrian Peterson." As for Lawrence Phillips......you'd think he was Charles Manson by all of the notoriety that he still receives today.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Well that ought to be depressing to watch.

didn't we get enough of miami in "the u"?
this is cool though. but i wish they would do one on our run in the 90's. talk about the walk-on program, s&c program, the blackshirts, the pipeline. there is a ton there.

You have to remember its eSECpn. Nebraska has never got much respect from that bunch of SEC lovers. TO was a bland interview and Bobby Bowden was glib and funny.Even now they (Especially Danny Kannel) act like FSU was the dominate team of the 90ies and that's just not true when you look at the numbers and especially the

National Championships.

T_O_B

none of the teams mentioned in your post or this thread are in the sec.

That doesn't detract from the fact that eSECpn has a negative bias against Nebraska and a favorable bias for the SEC a conference that they are also in bed with financially. Tired of having a 30 year old

wound reopened. Why do we never hear of the '71 Neb vr Ok Game of the Century, the '95 Orange Bowl or the '96 fiesta Bowl. Why is LP always referred to as. "former Nebraska running back Lawrence

Phillips" when he was long gone from Lincoln when he committed his worst offences? Adrian Peterson is after all referred to as Vikings running back rather than former Oklahoma running back. I will reserve my final comments until I view the 30 - 30 piece. Unfortunately I'm not very optimistic.

T_O_B

See the post above yours. The "negative bias" against Nebraska is not a fact, and people outside the state might think the exact opposite.

You're also really stretching to find a paranoid angle here. Lawrence Phillips did not go on to a successful pro career. His fame came in Lincoln, and his worst offense was committed here, too. Adrian Peterson has been an NFL poster boy for several seasons now, and is far more more branded by his Vikings career. Also, people aren't really talking about Lawrence Phillips anymore.

ESPN covers the exploits of Todd Gurley, Johnny Manziel, and Jameis Winston regardless of conference affiliation. They cover the whole NCAA police blotter. Dipping back to LP is kinda weird here.

And honestly, I think the sporting world knows more about the NU - OU Game of the Century than most games played nearly a half-century ago. Again, that was ESPN that voted the '71 Huskers and the '95 Huskers as two of the three best teams in college football history.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Actually, you do make a good point about all of the "former Nebraska xxxxxx" references. Let me toss in Richie Incognito as just one of the more current/irritating examples of that sort. Perhaps the references are made because they know it is important to us that we have a perception of a cleanly-run program, and that is their little dig to show that our program is as dirty as any. Your point about Adrian Peterson is a fine example of that double standard. I've no doubt that if he was one of ours, he would be referred to as "Vikings and former University of Nebraska running back Adrian Peterson." As for Lawrence Phillips......you'd think he was Charles Manson by all the notoriety that he still receives today.

I live in California. I remembered that Richie Incognito played at Nebraska. I'm sure the Nebraska media gave it a local angle.

But every national news report I read or heard refered to Incognito as a Miami Dolphins player and the problems in the Miami Dolphins locker room. There was some speculation that the target of his bullying, Jonathan Martin, went to Stanford, which may have made him a little soft. Incognito also burned a few bridges at Nebraska. That he's an bad guy isn't ESPN's fault.

Incognito and Phillips were not treated or referenced any differently because of the university they went to.

I honestly don't understand why Nebraska fans are so determined to see slights where none actually exist, and ignore when the same people heap praise on Tom Osborne or Ameer Abdullah.

And what media are you guys consuming that still refers to Lawrence Phillips in any way?

 

[knapplc]

But every national news report I read or heard refered to Incognito as a Miami Dolphins player and the problems in the Miami Dolphins locker room. There was some speculation that the target of his bullying, Jonathan Martin, went to Stanford, which may have made him a little soft. Incognito also burned a few bridges at Nebraska. That he's an bad guy isn't ESPN's fault.

Every report I read about Marten and Incognito made mention of Incognito's time at Nebraska.

ESPN

CBS

USAToday

 

[tschu]

I get a short on the Go-for-two, that's an interesting and iconic sports moment.

I do not get why Nebraska fans insist on a 30-for-30 on the 90s. We were good, but there was no scandal or controversy or overarching societal themes in play...we were just a program with a great coach that got some great recruits, have a rabid fanbase, and it all came together for a few great years. Yeah it was awesome to us and will go down in history, but what's there to document? Nothing that anyone outside of Husker fans would be interested in. Generally, there has to be a deep story in there somewhere, and I don't know what that would be. Yeah yeah, sellout, walk-ons, Brook Berringer, we get it. It's all great, but not really interesting to an outsider point of view.

Really the only exceptions in the 30 for 30 formula that I can think of that don't have a story are the Boston Red Sox one (and it kind of has a story with the hundred-year-drought and the curse and the sheer absurdity of the 3-0 comeback) and the Iron Bowl Rivalry one. I think with the Iron Bowl one, ESPN was just capitalizing on the fact that the past 4 national champions had come out of that game, so there was at least that.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

But every national news report I read or heard refered to Incognito as a Miami Dolphins player and the problems in the Miami Dolphins locker room. There was some speculation that the target of his bullying, Jonathan Martin, went to Stanford, which may have made him a little soft. Incognito also burned a few bridges at Nebraska. That he's an bad guy isn't ESPN's fault.

Every report I read about Marten and Incognito made mention of Incognito's time at Nebraska.

ESPN

CBS

USAToday

And those investigative pieces took up to 16 paragraphs to even get to Nebraska.

First reference and subsequent references to Incognito were solely as a Miami Dolphin. Nebraska enters the picture where it's relevant to the story. SOP journalism for the non-paranoid set.

 

[knapplc]

Paranoia would be if Nebraska wasn't being brought up in Incognito's story, but people perceived it to be happening anyway. It's clearly happening.

 

[sd'sker]

Paranoia would be if Nebraska wasn't being brought up in Incognito's story, but people perceived it to be happening anyway. It's clearly happening.

but those are exposes on incognito. how could they not mention unl? and they are fair, he was kicked off the team. those 3 stories you pointed to seem to be demonstrating that he had been followed by trouble for his career. they are not just saying, "richie incognito, former cornhusker, is a bad guy."

the paranoia is assuming there is some agenda to make unl look bad in all of this.

 

[StPaulHusker]

I have to say I am a little surprised Incognito isn't playing yet.

 

[ColoradoHusk]

Regarding the post about LP being mentioned as a former Nebraska running back, while Adrian Peterson is a "Minnesota Vikings" running back, the main reason behind that is Peterson has had a very successful NFL career. LP is mainly regarded as a draft bust, that bounced around with a few teams. LP's main football success was at Nebraska. Peterson was great at OU, and has been great in the NFL. I am sure the media in Oklahoma made sure to comment that Peterson played at OU during the recent issues Peterson has had.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Paranoia would be if Nebraska wasn't being brought up in Incognito's story, but people perceived it to be happening anyway. It's clearly happening.

Paranoia would be people just a few posts back believing Richie Incognito is identified as a Husker as much (or more) than a Miami Dolphin as part of a national media bias to treat Nebraska players in a different and more negative light than other players.

That clearly isn't happening.