A little RPG on Huskerboard

I'm glad you brought this up. I feel like we should have a very balanced, ball control, clock eating offense much like Stanford. (Very similar from what I've seen to Bama)

I think the midwest is ripe with TEs and FBs and we should take advantage of that rather than trying to get 3rd and 4th tier WRs from the south or Cali.

I've always been a proponent of a Pro Style offense with some flair added.
completely agree

 
I would try to get Scott Frost to be the new OC.
Good choice, just keep him away from the QBs. I shudder thinking about him mentoring how to shot put, er, throw the football.
Funny thing about Scott Frost is that except for this Season as the WR Coach at Oregon, he has been a Defensive Coach as well as playing Safety in the NFL for 6+ seasons. I have no doubt about him being a great choice to be added to the NU staff, I have been stumping for this to happen on this board for awhile now, but I am not sure he should be the OC. I would love to see him replace Gilmore as the WR Coach or maybe come on the Defensive side if we lose someone over there.

 
Tough choice.

For those of you who want a pro-style offense good luck with that recruiting thing. Watson has muddled our players up so much. You have possesion type recievers (who can't catch) no qb. The one bright side is the O-line are better fit for the pro style offense, tall, long arms but are awful at pass pro.

For those of you who want a power offense you have the tight ends, recievers in place but need all new O-line and qb's. At least you have a stable of backs, including FB's.

I have been confused over the last few years in our recruiting. We recruit drop back and dual threat qb's.

FB's and until this year never used them. Big tall O-lineman who are fat and slow, and can't get a quality reciever to commit.

So I think someone should forward this thread to Watson and ask him what he is trying to run because this staff has done an awful job at evaluating recruits and offering those that fit the system

 
Well, Nebraska needs some quality offensive players to run a pro-style offense. It won't work with the scrubs we have now. We are in a really bad place at this time, kinda like Notre Dame, where we have lost our luster, and don't really have a lot of other draws to get quality players to our school. Once we've lost the prestige, and the reputation as a program that sends players to the NFL, we are screwed. Why would anybody worth having go to Nebraska now? The area sucks, the expectations are way too high, and we lost to Iowa St. Like Notre Dame, it should take a LONG time to rebuild to what we used to have.

The best players want to go to a team that is a championship contender. Without an offense, Nebraska will have a very hard time getting past the rest of the Big XII, so the better defenders will go to a rebuilding Kansas St, Colorado, OU, etc. Pelini isn't known as a coach who knows d!(k about offense, so until he brings in a big-time offensive coodinator, I see the Huskers staying in the rut, and likely getting passed by in the North. :snacks:

 
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Well, Nebraska needs some quality offensive players to run a pro-style offense. It won't work with the scrubs we have now. We are in a really bad place at this time, kinda like Notre Dame, where we have lost our luster, and don't really have a lot of other draws to get quality players to our school. Once we've lost the prestige, and the reputation as a program that sends players to the NFL, we are screwed. Why would anybody worth having go to Nebraska now? The area sucks, the expectations are way too high, and we lost to Iowa St. Like Notre Dame, it should take a LONG time to rebuild to what we used to have.
Yep, really long time. I mean, look how bad we were on defense in 2007 it will take at least 4 years to turn that around you know?

Oh, wait.........

Amazing what a coach can do, anybody remember how "terrible and unathletic" our defense was in '07? Those players really turned out to be horrible, huh? Turner, Asante, O'Hanlon, Dillard, Ty Steinkuhler, Murillo, and this guy named Suh sort of turned out to be really talented. The talent is there, folks. We just need to find a way to motivate and develop that talent like the defensive staff did these players.

I mean for crying out loud, we all thought Suh was terrible in '07. Called him lazy and overrated.

Now he is possibly the greatest player to ever put that N on his helmet. You're a fool if you don't believe coaching is the difference in College Football. Always has been, always will be.

BTW, there is talent on that offense. Kinnie, Cooper, Bell, Burkhead, ROY HELU, Niles Paul, Qvale is going to be a stud, both Jones on the line, Williams, R. Henry, Cody Green (maybe).

The difference right now, IMO, is our offensive line. Barney Cotton is not good. I argued all off-season with people saying to give him a chance. Well we did, and unless we were playing the other ugly step sisters in the North we couldn't move the ball on the ground and couldn't pass block. He needs to have his a$$ chewed by Pelini and start teaching technique to these guys. Coaching is better up and down the board from when you played Barney, you can't just "out tough" the DL. Where is the aggression?

 
Well, Nebraska needs some quality offensive players to run a pro-style offense. It won't work with the scrubs we have now. We are in a really bad place at this time, kinda like Notre Dame, where we have lost our luster, and don't really have a lot of other draws to get quality players to our school. Once we've lost the prestige, and the reputation as a program that sends players to the NFL, we are screwed. Why would anybody worth having go to Nebraska now? The area sucks, the expectations are way too high, and we lost to Iowa St. Like Notre Dame, it should take a LONG time to rebuild to what we used to have.
Yep, really long time. I mean, look how bad we were on defense in 2007 it will take at least 4 years to turn that around you know?

Oh, wait.........

Amazing what a coach can do, anybody remember how "terrible and unathletic" our defense was in '07? Those players really turned out to be horrible, huh? Turner, Asante, O'Hanlon, Dillard, Ty Steinkuhler, Murillo, and this guy named Suh sort of turned out to be really talented. The talent is there, folks. We just need to find a way to motivate and develop that talent like the defensive staff did these players.

I mean for crying out loud, we all thought Suh was terrible in '07. Called him lazy and overrated.

Now he is possibly the greatest player to ever put that N on his helmet. You're a fool if you don't believe coaching is the difference in College Football. Always has been, always will be.

BTW, there is talent on that offense. Kinnie, Cooper, Bell, Burkhead, ROY HELU, Niles Paul, Qvale is going to be a stud, both Jones on the line, Williams, R. Henry, Cody Green (maybe).

The difference right now, IMO, is our offensive line. Barney Cotton is not good. I argued all off-season with people saying to give him a chance. Well we did, and unless we were playing the other ugly step sisters in the North we couldn't move the ball on the ground and couldn't pass block. He needs to have his a$$ chewed by Pelini and start teaching technique to these guys. Coaching is better up and down the board from when you played Barney, you can't just "out tough" the DL. Where is the aggression?
Hold on now, don't start thinking that there is a ton of potential because Nebraska had an ok season with ok stats in an unusually horrible Big XII North. Look at the competition. Kansas was way down, K State is in the first year of rebuilding, Colorado has a crappy coach and no talent, Iowa St sucks and managed to beat Nebraska, Mizzou was horrible. Then look at the games against the South teams. We've barely beaten a bad Oklahoma team, played Baylor REALLY close (who sucks), and got smoked by a mediocre Texas Tech. This is the same Tech team that Texas A&M destroyed.

I'll agree that coaching is important. However, you can only do so much with the talent you have. In a conference where offense is first, and almost no one has a defense, how was our Nebraska offense so terrible?

 
Well, Nebraska needs some quality offensive players to run a pro-style offense. It won't work with the scrubs we have now. We are in a really bad place at this time, kinda like Notre Dame, where we have lost our luster, and don't really have a lot of other draws to get quality players to our school. Once we've lost the prestige, and the reputation as a program that sends players to the NFL, we are screwed. Why would anybody worth having go to Nebraska now? The area sucks, the expectations are way too high, and we lost to Iowa St. Like Notre Dame, it should take a LONG time to rebuild to what we used to have.
Yep, really long time. I mean, look how bad we were on defense in 2007 it will take at least 4 years to turn that around you know?

Oh, wait.........

Amazing what a coach can do, anybody remember how "terrible and unathletic" our defense was in '07? Those players really turned out to be horrible, huh? Turner, Asante, O'Hanlon, Dillard, Ty Steinkuhler, Murillo, and this guy named Suh sort of turned out to be really talented. The talent is there, folks. We just need to find a way to motivate and develop that talent like the defensive staff did these players.

I mean for crying out loud, we all thought Suh was terrible in '07. Called him lazy and overrated.

Now he is possibly the greatest player to ever put that N on his helmet. You're a fool if you don't believe coaching is the difference in College Football. Always has been, always will be.

BTW, there is talent on that offense. Kinnie, Cooper, Bell, Burkhead, ROY HELU, Niles Paul, Qvale is going to be a stud, both Jones on the line, Williams, R. Henry, Cody Green (maybe).

The difference right now, IMO, is our offensive line. Barney Cotton is not good. I argued all off-season with people saying to give him a chance. Well we did, and unless we were playing the other ugly step sisters in the North we couldn't move the ball on the ground and couldn't pass block. He needs to have his a$$ chewed by Pelini and start teaching technique to these guys. Coaching is better up and down the board from when you played Barney, you can't just "out tough" the DL. Where is the aggression?
Hold on now, don't start thinking that there is a ton of potential because Nebraska had an ok season with ok stats in an unusually horrible Big XII North. Look at the competition. Kansas was way down, K State is in the first year of rebuilding, Colorado has a crappy coach and no talent, Iowa St sucks and managed to beat Nebraska, Mizzou was horrible. Then look at the games against the South teams. We've barely beaten a bad Oklahoma team, played Baylor REALLY close (who sucks), and got smoked by a mediocre Texas Tech. This is the same Tech team that Texas A&M destroyed.

I'll agree that coaching is important. However, you can only do so much with the talent you have. In a conference where offense is first, and almost no one has a defense, how was our Nebraska offense so terrible?
I think this will be easier if we just agree to disagree, you will never get me to admit that talent beats coaching. You need a balance of both, but if I had to choose one area to be better in I would choose coaching. That's just how I feel, and history backs that up.

 
I think this will be easier if we just agree to disagree, you will never get me to admit that talent beats coaching. You need a balance of both, but if I had to choose one area to be better in I would choose coaching. That's just how I feel, and history backs that up.
No history doesn't back that up. I'm not saying one beats the other. I'm saying you have to have both to be a championship team. Take Navy for example. Excellent coaching. Mediocre talent. That gets them somewhere around 7-5 to 8-4 every year. Then we can look at LSU. Excellent talent, mediocre coaching. Show me the history that backs up your opinion please.

 
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