As an outsider, I can confidently say things are better than fans may feel right now

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1: Yes AM had a great freshman year but you have McCaffrey now that is one of the best athletes in the Big Ten. Even against Ohio State he was at another level than anyone else on the field. When he is in space, he is terrific. He is a quick thinker and confident in his ability. You will have him for 4 more years (if he decides to stay that long). He is going to win a lot of games. 

2: Your freshman and sophomore talent is the best young talent that I have seen Nebraska have in a long time. When they are juniors and seniors, they will have a lot of experience and competing at a high level. Those are Frost's first two full recruiting classes (the one he put together in a month or two doesn't really count). 

3: Your linebacker talent has improved. It was really bad over the last many years but things are looking good there. 

4: Really impressed with the new DL talent. 

The main issues that I see right now is the mental hurdle that takes time to get over, the best WR talent besides Wandale are true freshman, and TE talent will improve with your income class. Dabo Swinney only went 6-7 his third full season at Clemson. Nick Saban was only 4-4 in conference play in his third year. Barry Alvarez went 5-6 in his 3rd year at Wisconsin and finished the season 1-4 in his last 5 games that season. 

Scott Frost will continue to learn as a head coach and adjust as time goes on. 

Nebraska will be fine. 

 
uberism said:
1: Yes AM had a great freshman year but you have McCaffrey now that is one of the best athletes in the Big Ten. Even against Ohio State he was at another level than anyone else on the field. When he is in space, he is terrific. He is a quick thinker and confident in his ability. You will have him for 4 more years (if he decides to stay that long). He is going to win a lot of games. 

2: Your freshman and sophomore talent is the best young talent that I have seen Nebraska have in a long time. When they are juniors and seniors, they will have a lot of experience and competing at a high level. Those are Frost's first two full recruiting classes (the one he put together in a month or two doesn't really count). 

3: Your linebacker talent has improved. It was really bad over the last many years but things are looking good there. 

4: Really impressed with the new DL talent. 

The main issues that I see right now is the mental hurdle that takes time to get over, the best WR talent besides Wandale are true freshman, and TE talent will improve with your income class. Dabo Swinney only went 6-7 his third full season at Clemson. Nick Saban was only 4-4 in conference play in his third year. Barry Alvarez went 5-6 in his 3rd year at Wisconsin and finished the season 1-4 in his last 5 games that season. 

Scott Frost will continue to learn as a head coach and adjust as time goes on. 

Nebraska will be fine. 
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Thanks for the insight Scott. Now get back to coaching 

 
uberism said:
Dabo Swinney only went 6-7 his third full season at Clemson. Nick Saban was only 4-4 in conference play in his third year. Barry Alvarez went 5-6 in his 3rd year at Wisconsin and finished the season 1-4 in his last 5 games that season. 

Scott Frost will continue to learn as a head coach and adjust as time goes on. 
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Not the best coaching examples

Other than Alvarez, who took a job 1000x worse than what Frost walked into, the other two had success and went bowling before their third year.  And other than MSU's probation years in Saban's last two years there, those two coaches haven't missed a bowl game since.

And for the record by their 5th year as a coach, Alvarez had reached a Rose Bowl, Saban had won six games or more and three bowl trips, and Dabo was heading for 11 wins a year after playing in the Orange Bowl.

The rest of your post +1 though

 
PaulCrewe said:
Not the best coaching examples

Other than Alvarez, who took a job 1000x worse than what Frost walked into, the other two had success and went bowling before their third year.  And other than MSU's probation years in Saban's last two years there, those two coaches haven't missed a bowl game since.

And for the record by their 5th year as a coach, Alvarez had reached a Rose Bowl, Saban had won six games or more and three bowl trips, and Dabo was heading for 11 wins a year after playing in the Orange Bowl.

The rest of your post +1 though
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Wisconsin and when Frost took over at Nebraska were more similar than you realize. A couple of years before Barry Alvarez was hired at Wisconsin the head coach died during spring ball and they struggled to win any game after that. They struggled to win games in Barry's first three years before breaking through. They broke through by playing the young players in his first couple of classes and then they became older, experienced players that were able to win at a high level. You will see similar things happen with the freshman and sophomores from this season for Scott Frost. 

Back then recruiting had a different cycle to it - a lot of kids would be offered after their senior season or during it. Film had to be mailed. These days offers go out early and anyone can view film of any high school kid in the country in seconds. 

Bo was fired after 9 win seasons and the hire of Riley was a death sentence that broke the Nebraska football program. Frost is rebuilding it. 

 
uberism said:
Wisconsin and when Frost took over at Nebraska were more similar than you realize. A couple of years before Barry Alvarez was hired at Wisconsin the head coach died during spring ball and they struggled to win any game after that. They struggled to win games in Barry's first three years before breaking through. They broke through by playing the young players in his first couple of classes and then they became older, experienced players that were able to win at a high level. You will see similar things happen with the freshman and sophomores from this season for Scott Frost. 

Back then recruiting had a different cycle to it - a lot of kids would be offered after their senior season or during it. Film had to be mailed. These days offers go out early and anyone can view film of any high school kid in the country in seconds. 

Bo was fired after 9 win seasons and the hire of Riley was a death sentence that broke the Nebraska football program. Frost is rebuilding it. 
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Completely different stratospheres with Barry starting at a turd, non traditional program and Frost here at Nebraska.  Even the death sentence produced 9 wins and two bowls(albeit one was backed into)

 
Also to put things into perspective because O have the Rosy frost glasses on too most of the time, but at this point in the Riley tenure it was a foregone conclusion Riley was getting fired for going 16-12, at basically the same time frame at Nebraska frost is 9-17. Sure you can argue progress at certain areas but at the end of the day Riley was better at Ws

 
Huskers93-97 said:
Also to put things into perspective because O have the Rosy frost glasses on too most of the time, but at this point in the Riley tenure it was a foregone conclusion Riley was getting fired for going 16-12, at basically the same time frame at Nebraska frost is 9-17. Sure you can argue progress at certain areas but at the end of the day Riley was better at Ws
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The thing saving Frost right now is being Scott Frost.  I am unsure what it with him, but he needs to reach out to someone that give him some serious help with getting an O that will work.  We have a lot of youth, but it's riding the pine.Not a whole lot of development going on.  I thought we'd see some improvement with Lubick and his Oregon resume...

 
lo country said:
The thing saving Frost right now is being Scott Frost.  I am unsure what it with him, but he needs to reach out to someone that give him some serious help with getting an O that will work.  We have a lot of youth, but it's riding the pine.Not a whole lot of development going on.  I thought we'd see some improvement with Lubick and his Oregon resume...
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Seriously pay urban a couple million to be a consultant. The guy always talks positive about Nebraska and frost. 

 
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lo country said:
The thing saving Frost right now is being Scott Frost.  I am unsure what it with him, but he needs to reach out to someone that give him some serious help with getting an O that will work.  We have a lot of youth, but it's riding the pine.Not a whole lot of development going on.  I thought we'd see some improvement with Lubick and his Oregon resume...
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Your assertion of youth riding the pine is simply way off.

We are playing a significant amount of youth....Fleming, Benhart, Piper, McCaffrey, Scott, Heinrich, both Robinson's, Rogers......

 
uberism said:
1: Yes AM had a great freshman year but you have McCaffrey now that is one of the best athletes in the Big Ten. Even against Ohio State he was at another level than anyone else on the field. When he is in space, he is terrific. He is a quick thinker and confident in his ability. You will have him for 4 more years (if he decides to stay that long). He is going to win a lot of games. 

2: Your freshman and sophomore talent is the best young talent that I have seen Nebraska have in a long time. When they are juniors and seniors, they will have a lot of experience and competing at a high level. Those are Frost's first two full recruiting classes (the one he put together in a month or two doesn't really count). 

3: Your linebacker talent has improved. It was really bad over the last many years but things are looking good there. 

4: Really impressed with the new DL talent. 

The main issues that I see right now is the mental hurdle that takes time to get over, the best WR talent besides Wandale are true freshman, and TE talent will improve with your income class. Dabo Swinney only went 6-7 his third full season at Clemson. Nick Saban was only 4-4 in conference play in his third year. Barry Alvarez went 5-6 in his 3rd year at Wisconsin and finished the season 1-4 in his last 5 games that season. 

Scott Frost will continue to learn as a head coach and adjust as time goes on. 

Nebraska will be fine. 
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I agree with a lot of this, but....you seem to know a lot about NU football for being an "outsider".  Care to explain?

 
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