Bill Callahan positive achievements thread.

[NUpolo8]

Fooled people into thinking his offense worked.

explain that one.
The playcalling on the game-winning drive against A&M in 06 was a masterpiece, amongst others. Zac Taylor and Joe Ganz to purify/swift/peterson ran that offense as an efficient machine. Offense was rarely the issue in any of the BC era games (USC in 06 being a notable exception)

Short answer: His offense put up points on crap teams, and struggled against good teams. They normally couldn't run the ball on good teams either. I can go into much more detail, but his "best" offense was in 2007 when we put up tons of garbage points when getting blown out.

So you don't like coaches who have teams that struggle against good teams, and pad their stats on bad teams? Weird.

To be perfectly honest all teams pad their stats against inferior teams, and you know that. There were many instances when he just threw away games for the sake of his game plan. Miss St, ISU, TT in 2004 come to mind quite vividly.
He was going to fit a square peg in that round hole no matter what, because that is what he did. That first year IMO he went into it as a throw away year.

Oh man that's true. Those games were so winnable.....well maybe not TT.

 

[deedsker]

OSU 2006. Sums up Callahan philosophy, WTH moments, and final implosion in one game.

 

[Ulty]

The playcalling on the game-winning drive against A&M in 06 was a masterpiece, amongst others. Zac Taylor and Joe Ganz to purify/swift/peterson ran that offense as an efficient machine. Offense was rarely the issue in any of the BC era games (USC in 06 being a notable exception)

Wow, that's very, very untrue.

 

[Ulty]

Callahan had a few good things going on offense, eventually, but it really wasn't that great or any better than what Pelini's teams have mustered, with or without Shawn Watson. Let's take a look and compare:

2003 (for reference): 24.77 points per game (7 games in which we scored 24 or less)

The Callahan era:

2004: 25.0 points per game (8 games in which we scored 24 or less)

2005: 24.6 ppg (5)

2006: 30.57 ppg (5)

2007: 33.42 ppg (4)

The Pelini era:

2008: 35.38 points per game (1 game in which we scored 24 or less)

2009: 25.14 ppg (7)

2010: 30.86 ppg (6)

2011: 29.15 ppg (6)

2012: 34.78 (2)

2013: 31.92 (6)

So... Pelini has already had multiple years with better offensive production than even Callahan's best offensive year (which also happened to be the worst season of our lives). And the 2009 offense, which was undoubtedly horrific, was better than two of Callahan's years. It took Callahan three years to even get better than the Solich offense that he replaced. Callahan had 5.5 games per season scoring 24 or less, while Pelini has had 4.66 such games per year.

I'm not too high on Pelini's coaching ability and am not too optimistic to get over the hump this year, but his offense, despite the number of mid-season changes or whatever, has not been any worse than Callahan's. Callahan's offensive prowess is a total myth.

 

[beanman]

Fooled people into thinking his offense worked.

explain that one.
The playcalling on the game-winning drive against A&M in 06 was a masterpiece, amongst others. Zac Taylor and Joe Ganz to purify/swift/peterson ran that offense as an efficient machine. Offense was rarely the issue in any of the BC era games (USC in 06 being a notable exception)

Short answer: His offense put up points on crap teams, and struggled against good teams. They normally couldn't run the ball on good teams either. I can go into much more detail, but his "best" offense was in 2007 when we put up tons of garbage points when getting blown out.

So you don't like coaches who have teams that struggle against good teams, and pad their stats on bad teams? Weird.

Zing

 

[kchusker_chris]

Not coincidentally, that 2007 offense also had similar issues turning the ball over as Pelini's teams.

And to whoever said if Cally had a d-coordinator worth a lick...did you miss the last couple of seasons? There have been some very Cosgrovian performances throughout the last 2 seasons. And Cally didn't get a chance to fire Cosgrove. Go back to 2006 and tell me what indication that season had which would have made you fire Coz. There might have been some red flags, but nothing as glaring as we've witnessed the last 2 years. I think we'd take a defense that gave up 18 points a game today. Almost a full TD better than last years improved D. Almost 10 points better than 2012's. Think we could have won another game or two? And that came against the B12 in their O heyday.

If you think Coz should have been gone, you'd better be screaming for JP to hit the road.

 

[Count 'Bility]

All of Suh's success.

 

[Ulty]

If you think Coz should have been gone, you'd better be screaming for JP to hit the road.

I think there was a lot of that earlier on. JP wasn't the only one, during the season and shortly after it ended, there was a lot of discussion on here regarding whether or not there would be or should be staffing changes. But since Bo has refused to make any changes, the spotlight of criticism returns to Bo.

 

[Chaddyboxer]

WTH?.....This is a real thread???!!!

 

[Saint Boseph]

If you think Coz should have been gone, you'd better be screaming for JP to hit the road.

If it's true that JP largely runs the defense and calls the plays then I am absolutely opposed to him being the DC. He is not qualified for the position.

However, if it's true as many people say, that Bo is the main shot caller for the D, then it's more of an annoyance for me than discomfort that he holds the DC position.

I'm of the latter persuasion. I know the 2012 D was just as, if not more, abysmal than 2007. However it's common knowledge why that happened, and is an outlier. The Recruiting misses of 2010, transition to the Bjg 10 changing the defense he was building for the Big 12, and his patchwork recruiting class in 2008 (will Compton and Whaley covering RB's on pass routes still gives me nightmares) lead to believe that 2012 was an outlier. Bo's track record with defense, inclusive of his coaching stops at other schools leads me to give him the benefit of the doubt. When there's little variability in circumstances out of his control, he does quite well. We're starting to see that with the past couple recruiting classes & the D's surge the latter half of the season.

Cosgrove didn't build the equity that Pelini did with me

 

[Joe_5700]

Since this appears to be a theme today.....

Beat Michigan in the Alamo Bowl. Everyone knows any victory against Michigan is important.

Had a very good graduation rate/gpa

Kept his players out of trouble.

Ruined CU's season in 05 and started their death spiral.

CCG appearance

Put together some great recruiting classes with worse facilities than any NU coach.

#9wins in 06

Brought in the same amount of walk ins as Bo Pelini.

Gave out the Blackshirts before the season started, in keeping with tradition.

Had a conference offensive player of the year.

What am I forgetting?

Jammed square pegs into round holes and produced a 5 win season...

How many 9 win seasons did he produce?

We suffered possibly the worst blowout ever against TT.

 

[kchusker_chris]

If you think Coz should have been gone, you'd better be screaming for JP to hit the road.

If it's true that JP largely runs the defense and calls the plays then I am absolutely opposed to him being the DC. He is not qualified for the position.

However, if it's true as many people say, that Bo is the main shot caller for the D, then it's more of an annoyance for me than discomfort that he holds the DC position.

Whichever of these it was going into last season, it was the other coming out of it. There was too big of a shift mid-season for it not to be a change in leadership/direction/play caller. Simple things like lining up 3 yards off the ball - which was pretty prevalent the first 5 games (and all last season and the season before), disappeared later in the year. Honestly, part of me thinks Bo might have thrown in the towel and given it up to JP. To much of the first 5 games looked like the previous 2 season.

 

[kchusker_chris]

We suffered possibly the worst blowout ever against TT.

No sure 70-10 in year 1 is as bad as 70-31 in year 6 during a championship game. That will linger for a long time.

 

[NUinID]

If you think Coz should have been gone, you'd better be screaming for JP to hit the road.

If it's true that JP largely runs the defense and calls the plays then I am absolutely opposed to him being the DC. He is not qualified for the position.

However, if it's true as many people say, that Bo is the main shot caller for the D, then it's more of an annoyance for me than discomfort that he holds the DC position.

Whichever of these it was going into last season, it was the other coming out of it. There was too big of a shift mid-season for it not to be a change in leadership/direction/play caller. Simple things like lining up 3 yards off the ball - which was pretty prevalent the first 5 games (and all last season and the season before), disappeared later in the year. Honestly, part of me thinks Bo might have thrown in the towel and given it up to JP. To much of the first 5 games looked like the previous 2 season.

That is so ridiculous, nobody on the defensive line was lining up 3 yards off the ball.

BP has always been and always will be in charge of the defense Just like Nick Sabin, Pete Carol, or Will Muschamp is in charge of their defenses.

Sure they have DCs, but they also have final say in things. I am sure JP makes up much of the practice schedules and does a lot of the game planning with BP, but very few HC give up complete control of whatever there expertise was as a coordinator.

 

[kchusker_chris]

If you think Coz should have been gone, you'd better be screaming for JP to hit the road.

If it's true that JP largely runs the defense and calls the plays then I am absolutely opposed to him being the DC. He is not qualified for the position.

However, if it's true as many people say, that Bo is the main shot caller for the D, then it's more of an annoyance for me than discomfort that he holds the DC position.

Whichever of these it was going into last season, it was the other coming out of it. There was too big of a shift mid-season for it not to be a change in leadership/direction/play caller. Simple things like lining up 3 yards off the ball - which was pretty prevalent the first 5 games (and all last season and the season before), disappeared later in the year. Honestly, part of me thinks Bo might have thrown in the towel and given it up to JP. To much of the first 5 games looked like the previous 2 season.

That is so ridiculous, nobody on the defensive line was lining up 3 yards off the ball.

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it was 1-2 with a pause to play paddy-cake. Go watch the UCLA highlights. We're never once on the line of scrimmage. And it gets worse as the game goes on. 3rd and 1 and our entire line had their hand down on the yellow transposed line. this is pretty commonly discussed on this board, there's been dozen of examples of it posted.