Blackshirts back??

[mcouch44]

First time poster here. Just wanted to get some input on this years defense. Seems like things are looking really promising both on the line and in the secondary. So do we think the Blackshirts of the Crick and Suh era are back?

 

[The King]

No because our DL depth is pretty short especially at DE, with Keels and Natter being an unknown. Hell, we just heard that Collins was moved to DE just for extra reps.

Corner is still pretty slim and inexperienced. We'll see how Cockrell and Mosley react. Davie coming back would be huge, but that's not gonna happen.

The middle of our defense is pretty formidable, young, and set for the future with S, LB, and DT.

In sum, our 2 deep is solid enough to be a top 10 defense. Our top 3/4 guys (in case of injury) are not. But we are clearly on the right track, especially athletically.

 

[ADS]

It could be decent, but not 2009 or 2010 good just yet.

 

[mcouch44]

No because our DL depth is pretty short especially at DE, with Keels and Natter being an unknown. Hell, we just heard that Collins was moved to DE just for extra reps.
Corner is still pretty slim and inexperienced. We'll see how Cockrell and Mosley react. Davie coming back would be huge, but that's not gonna happen.

The middle of our defense is pretty formidable, young, and set for the future with S, LB, and DT.

In sum, our 2 deep is solid enough to be a top 10 defense. Our top 3/4 guys (in case of injury) are not. But we are clearly on the right track, especially athletically.

I just can't wait to see Rose and Gregory this year. Gerry at safety too, his natural position.

 

[Landlord]

It could be decent, but not 2009 or 2010 good just yet.

With a good offseason I think we can be just as salty as the 2010 defense. We've got athletes across the board and our secondary has been pretty damn solid every year, even 2011/2012 with a non-existent pass rush.

 

[ADS]

It could be decent, but not 2009 or 2010 good just yet.

With a good offseason I think we can be just as salty as the 2010 defense. We've got athletes across the board and our secondary has been pretty damn solid every year, even 2011/2012 with a non-existent pass rush.

That 2010 secondary was basically an NFL unit, not sure any of the corners are on the same level as Prince or Fonzie right now. Not saying they won't be soon.

 

[The King]

No because our DL depth is pretty short especially at DE, with Keels and Natter being an unknown. Hell, we just heard that Collins was moved to DE just for extra reps.
Corner is still pretty slim and inexperienced. We'll see how Cockrell and Mosley react. Davie coming back would be huge, but that's not gonna happen.

The middle of our defense is pretty formidable, young, and set for the future with S, LB, and DT.

In sum, our 2 deep is solid enough to be a top 10 defense. Our top 3/4 guys (in case of injury) are not. But we are clearly on the right track, especially athletically.

I just can't wait to see Rose and Gregory this year. Gerry at safety too, his natural position.

I'd be pretty surprised if Gerry started at safety. I think LeRoy and Corey Cooper essentially have those positions locked down at the moment.

Rose and Gregory are obviously beasts. But so is Banderas. And I wouldn't count out Charles Jackson or Jonathan Rose either. Just amazing athletes.

 

[mcouch44]

No because our DL depth is pretty short especially at DE, with Keels and Natter being an unknown. Hell, we just heard that Collins was moved to DE just for extra reps.
Corner is still pretty slim and inexperienced. We'll see how Cockrell and Mosley react. Davie coming back would be huge, but that's not gonna happen.

The middle of our defense is pretty formidable, young, and set for the future with S, LB, and DT.

In sum, our 2 deep is solid enough to be a top 10 defense. Our top 3/4 guys (in case of injury) are not. But we are clearly on the right track, especially athletically.

I just can't wait to see Rose and Gregory this year. Gerry at safety too, his natural position.

I'd be pretty surprised if Gerry started at safety. I think LeRoy and Corey Cooper essentially have those positions locked down at the moment.

Rose and Gregory are obviously beasts. But so is Banderas. And I wouldn't count out Charles Jackson or Jonathan Rose either. Just amazing athletes.

Cooper is going to shine this season. Being from Illinois, I gotta root for the kid. But you're right, Gerry will come into his own in the next few years hopefully. Anxious to see Banderas too and his athleticism is off the charts.

 

[TheSker]

I've always believed the DL is the key to a defense. In the 90's, we had NFL talent at all four spots of the DL. During the Suh/Crick time, we had the two of them. I'm not as concerned about depth......if we have NFL talent across our DL, we'll be fine.

 

[Redux]

Banderas is a beast, think hes gotalot of promise. The corners scare me a bit, wish we couldve gotten a JUCO transfer to fill a spot.

 

[NUinID]

No because our DL depth is pretty short especially at DE, with Keels and Natter being an unknown. Hell, we just heard that Collins was moved to DE just for extra reps.

Corner is still pretty slim and inexperienced. We'll see how Cockrell and Mosley react. Davie coming back would be huge, but that's not gonna happen.

The middle of our defense is pretty formidable, young, and set for the future with S, LB, and DT.

In sum, our 2 deep is solid enough to be a top 10 defense. Our top 3/4 guys (in case of injury) are not. But we are clearly on the right track, especially athletically.

I'm going to agree and disagree with a couple of things here. I agree that our defense most likely will not be as good as 2009, but it could be top 20 which is good enough. I disagree that we won't be as good because of depth issues on the d-line. We had basically no depth in 2009 on the d-line. Suh and Crick played virtually every snap of every game that year. We may not be super deep, but we are definitely deeper than that year.

We were very deep and very solid in the secondary in 2009 that was a strength. We may not be that deep in the secondary.

 

[ericdolph]

I look forward to the defense this season as well. Most of the younger guys have some decent experience from last year and the dline will wreak some more havoc. Hopefully our O improves on turnovers while putting up some early leads against the tougher teams allowing the D to play with a more aggressive approach. Bo's defenses can be scary good when we rush the passer well.

 

[The Dude]

It could be decent, but not 2009 or 2010 good just yet.

With a good offseason I think we can be just as salty as the 2010 defense. We've got athletes across the board and our secondary has been pretty damn solid every year, even 2011/2012 with a non-existent pass rush.

That 2010 secondary was basically an NFL unit, not sure any of the corners are on the same level as Prince or Fonzie right now. Not saying they won't be soon.

This. Although, I could see us having a stronger rush defense than 2010. That front seven was basically Crick and Lavonte. Two great players, but they couldn't be everywhere at once. Only Suh could.

 

[Nebraska All The Way!]

Banderas is a beast, think hes gotalot of promise. The corners scare me a bit, wish we couldve gotten a JUCO transfer to fill a spot.

Cockrell is a JUCO and has been seeing time at backup nickel and 1st team corner I think.

 

[Landlord]

It could be decent, but not 2009 or 2010 good just yet.

With a good offseason I think we can be just as salty as the 2010 defense. We've got athletes across the board and our secondary has been pretty damn solid every year, even 2011/2012 with a non-existent pass rush.

That 2010 secondary was basically an NFL unit, not sure any of the corners are on the same level as Prince or Fonzie right now. Not saying they won't be soon.

This. Although, I could see us having a stronger rush defense than 2010. That front seven was basically Crick and Lavonte. Two great players, but they couldn't be everywhere at once. Only Suh could.

Yep. Our 2010 secondary was loaded with talent, but even when they haven't all been future NFL picks, our secondary has still performed pretty admirably, and we should have the athletes and depth on the front 7 to help them out even more.