Blind Resume Comparison - 11/11

Mavric

Mavric

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Since it's obvious that the Committee cares less for number of losses and more for resume (and I don't blame them), I'm expanding to account for that. I've ordered teams by what I think their resume as listed indicates. I don't think the Committee cares as much for margin of victory so it mainly matters how good your opponents are and how they've done. Rankings are the most-recent Committee rankings.

Team A - Beat #9, #17, #24; No loss

Team B - Beat #18, #19; No loss

Team C - Beat #11, #12, #23; Lost to #14
Team D - Beat #13, #25; Lost to #7

Team E - Beat #17, #24; Lost to #10

Team F - Beat #18, #23; Lost to #11

Team G - Beat #4; Lost to unranked

Team H - Beat #12; Lost to unranked

Team I - Beat #10, #13, #17; Lost to #1, #24

Team J - Beat #6, #14; Lost to #2, #23

Team K - Beat #5, #24; Lost to #9, #17
Team L - Beat #16; Lost to #2, #8

Team M - Beat none; Lost to #4, #9

Team N - Beat #2, Lost to #11, unranked

Team O - Beat none; Lost to #12

Team P - Beat #10, #20; Lost to #1, #5, #9

Team Q - Beat none; Lost to #3, #6

Team R - Beat none; Lost to #3, #15

Team S - Beat #19; Lost to unranked x2
Team T - Beat #22; Lost to unranked

Team U - Beat #9; Lost to #1, #5, #10

Team V - Beat #11; Lost to #2, #6, unranked
Team W - Beat none; Lost to #4, unranked

Team X - Beat none; Lost to #17, unranked
Team Y - Beat none; Lost to #21, unranked

Team A - Mississippi State - #1

Team B - Florida State - #3

Team C - Oregon - #2

Team D - TCU - #4

Team E - Alabama - #5

Team F - Arizona State - #6

Team G - Baylor - #7

Team H - Ohio State - #8

Team I - Auburn - #9

Team J - UCLA - #11

Team K - Mississippi - #10

Team L - Michigan State - #12

Team M - Kansas State - #13

Team N - Arizona - #14

Team O - Nebraska - #16

Team P - LSU - #17

Team Q - Notre Dame - #18

Team R - Clemson - #19

Team S - Georgia - #15

Team T - Duke - #21

Team U - Texas A&M - #24

Team V - Utah - #23

Team W - Minnesota - #25

Team X - Wisconsin - #20

Team Y - Georgia Tech - #22
 
So I would have to generally agree with the rankings.

The one really odd one continues to be Georgia. Their only "good" win is Georgia Tech who is now ranked but has the worst resume of any of the 25 teams and will likely lose their last two games. And they've lost to two pretty bad teams.
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A couple of the 20-25 teams could be rearranged but it's pretty close between all of them.

 
Does beat (said ranked team) by ( said amount of points) have no bearing? Same as lost to (said ranked team) by (said amount of points) have no bearing also?

If team A beats #4 ranked team by 20 but loses to #6 ranked team by 2 you would think that would influence the ranking. Shouldn't this come into play with your original list?

 
True2tRA said:
Does beat (said ranked team) by ( said amount of points) have no bearing? Same as lost to (said ranked team) by (said amount of points) have no bearing also?

If team A beats #4 ranked team by 20 but loses to #6 ranked team by 2 you would think that would influence the ranking. Shouldn't this come into play with your original list?
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I don't think they're giving it a lot of weight, at least for now. UCLA is a prime example.

Perhaps at the end it will have more weight or be used as a tie-breaker. But I don't see much of it now.

 
Mavric, I applaud the effort and see where you're going with it, but to me the $64k question is how are they coming up with the initial ranking for which they base others' rankings. I'm guess I'm looking for the key stone.

I believe I know the answer (eye test; previous years), however, I'm amazed at how often fans and media just take the "rankings based on opponents rankings" as gospel without asking more critical questions.

 
hskrpwr13 said:
Mavric, I applaud the effort and see where you're going with it, but to me the $64k question is how are they coming up with the initial ranking for which they base others' rankings. I'm guess I'm looking for the key stone.

I believe I know the answer (eye test; previous years), however, I'm amazed at how often fans and media just take the "rankings based on opponents rankings" as gospel without asking more critical questions.
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Why are they good? Well, because they beat other good teams, and only lost to really good teams.

But how do you know those teams were good? Well, because they started out good.

How did they start out good? Because, they were good last year.

So they're good this year, because of their match ups to teams that were good last year? Exactly.

And how did you know they were good last year?

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hskrpwr13 said:
Mavric, I applaud the effort and see where you're going with it, but to me the $64k question is how are they coming up with the initial ranking for which they base others' rankings. I'm guess I'm looking for the key stone.

I believe I know the answer (eye test; previous years), however, I'm amazed at how often fans and media just take the "rankings based on opponents rankings" as gospel without asking more critical questions.
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I agree that it's somewhat circular to determine if the rankings are valid based on the resumes as determined by the rankings. (Seems even more circular as I type it.)

But I don't think there'd be a lot of argument that, say, the Top 20 teams deserve to be there somewhere. Then you have to figure out how to tell them apart. You start at the top and work your way down. I was mainly looking at arguments that Team_X is overrated or Team_Y is underrated. Assuming the rest of the rankings are fairly close, I think the resumes are generally in the correct order - except for Georgia. Anyone can make arguments that certain teams should be up or down a couple spots but I think they have it pretty close at the moment, when going from the standpoint of "who has the best resume."

 
HUSKERFOREVER38 said:
If we blow out Wisconsin where do you think we will rank ?
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If there are no upsets this week I'd guess 9 or 10, leapfrogging all two loss teams except Auburn and maybe Bama if Auburn get a good win against Georgia and Bama plays a tight loss against Miss St. If Auburn and OSU lose (both playing ranked teams) and Bama gets blown out we could sneak into the 7th spot.

 
Perhaps a better way to put it is I think their logic is sound for the most part. Based on how they ranked all the teams, I think it makes sense why they ranked the teams where they are. People will disagree thinking some teams are better or worse and that's fine. Probably some members of the Committee think some teams are better or worse. But the proces seems to fit.

 
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