Blind Resume Comparison - 11/11

Since it's obvious that the Committee cares less for number of losses and more for resume (and I don't blame them), I'm expanding to account for that. I've ordered teams by what I think their resume as listed indicates. I don't think the Committee cares as much for margin of victory so it mainly matters how good your opponents are and how they've done. Rankings are the most-recent Committee rankings.

Team A - Beat #9, #17, #24; No loss

Team B - Beat #18, #19; No loss

Team C - Beat #11, #12, #23; Lost to #14
Team D - Beat #13, #25; Lost to #7

Team E - Beat #17, #24; Lost to #10

Team F - Beat #18, #23; Lost to #11

Team G - Beat #4; Lost to unranked

Team H - Beat #12; Lost to unranked

Team I - Beat #10, #13, #17; Lost to #1, #24

Team J - Beat #6, #14; Lost to #2, #23

Team K - Beat #5, #24; Lost to #9, #17
Team L - Beat #16; Lost to #2, #8

Team M - Beat none; Lost to #4, #9

Team N - Beat #2, Lost to #11, unranked

Team O - Beat none; Lost to #12

Team P - Beat #10, #20; Lost to #1, #5, #9

Team Q - Beat none; Lost to #3, #6

Team R - Beat none; Lost to #3, #15

Team S - Beat #19; Lost to unranked x2
Team T - Beat #22; Lost to unranked

Team U - Beat #9; Lost to #1, #5, #10

Team V - Beat #11; Lost to #2, #6, unranked
Team W - Beat none; Lost to #4, unranked

Team X - Beat none; Lost to #17, unranked
Team Y - Beat none; Lost to #21, unranked

Team A - Mississippi State - #1

Team B - Florida State - #3

Team C - Oregon - #2

Team D - TCU - #4

Team E - Alabama - #5

Team F - Arizona State - #6

Team G - Baylor - #7

Team H - Ohio State - #8

Team I - Auburn - #9

Team J - UCLA - #11

Team K - Mississippi - #10

Team L - Michigan State - #12

Team M - Kansas State - #13

Team N - Arizona - #14

Team O - Nebraska - #16

Team P - LSU - #17

Team Q - Notre Dame - #18

Team R - Clemson - #19

Team S - Georgia - #15

Team T - Duke - #21

Team U - Texas A&M - #24

Team V - Utah - #23

Team W - Minnesota - #25

Team X - Wisconsin - #20

Team Y - Georgia Tech - #22
Good stuff, Mav. I have some thoughts regarding the committee's inconsistency. Going off of your benchmarks (and accepting we don't know if this is exactly what the committee is doing), I can not see how a two-loss, no-ranked-win Kansas St is in front of Arizona (two-loss, one-ranked-win) or Nebraska (one-loss, no-ranked-win). For that matter, I don't see how Arizona with two losses (one to an unranked team) is ahead of a one-loss Nebraska. Sure, Arizona won against a ranked opponent, but they also lost to an unranked opponent the following week and a lower-ranked team two weeks after that. So, which Arizona team are they?

Also, why are they not penalizing Notre Dame and Clemson more? Both have two-losses but have no ranked-wins. Is it because their losses are against quality opponents? If that is the argument (which it doesn't seem to be), then Nebraska should also be favored.

 
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Tell me where this hypothetical team would rank,

Beat #20, no loss

In the top four or not, based on what the committee has done so far, I would say no

If you didn't figure it out that would prob be us had we beat MSU, kinda depressing

 
Tell me where this hypothetical team would rank,

Beat #20, no loss

In the top four or not, based on what the committee has done so far, I would say no

If you didn't figure it out that would prob be us had we beat MSU, kinda depressing
For sure Top 6 and maybe Top 4. The current 5-6 teams don't have a win much better than that and have a loss. I'd say 4-5 with TCU.

 
Good stuff, Mav. I have some thoughts regarding the committee's inconsistency. Going off of your benchmarks (and accepting we don't know if this is exactly what the committee is doing), I can not see how a two-loss, no-ranked-win Kansas St is in front of Arizona (two-loss, one-ranked-win) or Nebraska (one-loss, no-ranked-win). For that matter, I don't see how Arizona with two losses (one to an unranked team) is ahead of a one-loss Nebraska. Sure, Arizona won against a ranked opponent, but they also lost to an unranked opponent the following week and a lower-ranked team two weeks after that. So, which Arizona team are they?

Also, why are they not penalizing Notre Dame and Clemson more? Both have two-losses but have no ranked-wins. Is it because their losses are against quality opponents? If that is the argument (which is doesn't seem to be), then Nebraska should also be favored.
I think it's pretty close. To me, Arizona's big win and bad loss kind of cancel each other out - the downgrade they get for losing to an unranked team is offset by having the "best" win in the country. If you take that approach, then KState still has the two losses but they're both "better" than either Nebraska's or Arizona's loss. You could change the order around a little but I think it's close.

Neither ND or Clemson have a "good" win but every team behind them has lost to an unranked team except three-loss aTm.

 
Mavric said:
True2tRA said:
Does beat (said ranked team) by ( said amount of points) have no bearing? Same as lost to (said ranked team) by (said amount of points) have no bearing also?

If team A beats #4 ranked team by 20 but loses to #6 ranked team by 2 you would think that would influence the ranking. Shouldn't this come into play with your original list?
I don't think they're giving it a lot of weight, at least for now. UCLA is a prime example.

Perhaps at the end it will have more weight or be used as a tie-breaker. But I don't see much of it now.
I guess I disagree.

When looking at the rankings so far, and especially these last ones, I think that is precisely what they are doing.

What other explanation is there for Oregon or Georgia? Also, UCLA's victory over Arizona St. is actually a prime example.

 
You must beat perceived weak teams by a large margin and if you beat a team perceived as a strong team by a large margin, that's even better. Losing to a weak team is clearly a no-no, but losing a close game to a perceived strong team is really not too damaging. Hard to argue that the margin of victory isn't a big factor right now.

 
I guess I disagree.

When looking at the rankings so far, and especially these last ones, I think that is precisely what they are doing.

What other explanation is there for Oregon or Georgia? Also, UCLA's victory over Arizona St. is actually a prime example.
I have no explanation for Georgia. They have won some games by bigger margins but they also lost to two unranked teams and one of those was by 18 points.

The combination of Oregon winning big and FSU not dominating may have been what put Oregon ahead but Oregon also has more and better wins over current Top 25 teams.

UCLA has one big win but they've also won by 8, 7, 3, 2, and 3 over not particularly good teams. It's possible that they are giving credit for big wins but not downgrading close wins but I don't think the people sitting on the Committee would feel that way.

 
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