Comparing Nebraska's most colorful coaches of late

[NUpolo8]

That's true, zoogies. Finding another Tim Miles, but to coach football, is likely unrealistic. Miles seems like a once-in-a-lifetime hire. And the guy who hired him retired.
But Bo needs to realize that he's the public image of this institution, and right now, that image is pretty tarnished. And worst of all, by many recent interviews, he doesn't believe he's doing anything wrong.

Your last sentence pretty much sums up my disdain for Bo as of late. He could have used the bowl win as a catalyst for change and renewal. It just seems like it's being used as an excuse to stay the course.

 

[Saunders]

It seems to me if you have a generally negative attitude towards Bo, you're just being negative. If you have a generally negative attitude towards the program at large, and its potential, that's the good kind of negativity?

Dogging Bo after every stop and refusing to see positives is being negative. Realizing that Nebraska isn't in the same position it was 20 years ago (regardless of HC) in the CFB world isn't negativity, it's a realistic view of the situation. I want NU to pull in top 10 ranked recruiting classes and be in the playoff every year, but I also recognize that the changes in the sport over the last 20 years haven't benefited NU in the slightest. This isn't some Tony Robbins sh#t.

 

[zoogs]

I agree with this. But would you agree that he's making pretty substantial efforts to show that cool side of him that the players apparently see all the time? Seems like the presence of Miles, or an ultimatum from the boss maybe, has really pushed him to start embracing Nebraska instead of fighting it.

I agree with that 100%, Mr. A. As for whether he keeps it up if we have another year without a B1G trophy and the seat starts getting hot? Or whether, for all the effort, he's effective at it, above and beyond the 'at least he's saying the right things now' lip service? That I'm not sure about.

I feel pretty much along the lines of what knapp says in that last sentence. It's less a transformation in how he's running the program and more a "I never did anything wrong, but maybe now we can do a better job of showing you guys that than before." But, hey, I'm willing to see how it all plays out.

Finding a Miles may be difficult, but I don't think high-energy, high-character, good-image guys are impossible to find. I think as Nebraska we can cycle through guys who fit that bill and who keep up the recruiting lifeblood of the program, until we find someone who can also win. I see little need to be beholden to Bo, who's not that rare, either: a top coordinator who makes bowl games. They're a dime a dozen, and so are their flame out stories.

 

[74Hunter]

So, if we fire Bo, we're going to have to wait 15 years before we make a bowl game?!
Is this what you want?!

Sad thing is, this would be closer to reality than winning a NC.

The funny part is you don't know either way. But I'm not surprised you think this.

Look at the time and money spent to "get it right" when Miles was hired. They learned from their mistakes. Seems reasonable to think the same would be done with football should it happen.

After Nee, basketball= lucky to be .500 most years, playing inn front of half full arenas.

Football under Bo, +.700 winning percentage, playing for conference championships every other year, playing in bowls every year, and playing in a packed house every Saturday.

Apples and oranges.

Yes I know. My point was this....Look at the effort exerted to "get it right" for basketball, far and away one of Nebraska's "lesser" sports because they didn't want a repeat occurrence. You don't think they wouldn't at least do that much if the flagship program was looking for a coach?

And I'm sorry, but if you can read that article and not see similarities between Nee and Bo, it's simply because you don't want to.

So you're willing to throw away 9/10 wins a year while playing for conference championships every other year and go through 20 years of futility in the hopes that we MIGHT find a guy to get us right back to where we are now? Sounds reasonable.

And who said that I dismissed any similarities between Bo and Nee? I'm not one who ignores reality because it doesn't agree with my sense of entitlement.

 

[74Hunter]

It seems to me if you have a generally negative attitude towards Bo, you're just being negative. If you have a generally negative attitude towards the program at large, and its potential, that's the good kind of negativity?

Dogging Bo after every stop and refusing to see positives is being negative. Realizing that Nebraska isn't in the same position it was 20 years ago (regardless of HC) in the CFB world isn't negativity, it's a realistic view of the situation. I want NU to pull in top 10 ranked recruiting classes and be in the playoff every year, but I also recognize that the changes in the sport over the last 20 years haven't benefited NU in the slightest. This isn't some Tony Robbins sh#t.

Great post, +1

 

[BigRedBuster]

If/when Bo leaves and Nebraska manages to find an able football coach with the energizing and embracing mentality of Tim Miles, we'll all wonder how we didn't know what we were missing.

Bo's not just being paid to win championships and deliver a certain win percentage. He has the keys to one of the most prestigious cars in college football. The image of the program and the engagement of the fanbase, hopefully he'll steward more carefully and ably in 2014 than he has in any of his six years to date.

Or....Bo continues to evolve as a coach, recruiter and representative of the university and some of us will be happy to see the program moving forward. Some of will still hang on to the past.

 

[zoogs]

Yeah, that's fair. Maybe Bo evolves or maybe Bo he's the same guy as he's shown 'in the past.' I hope for the same as any of you; I just don't consider it likely....I'd be very happy to be wrong.

 

[NUinID]

It seems to me if you have a generally negative attitude towards Bo, you're just being negative. If you have a generally negative attitude towards the program at large, and its potential, that's the good kind of negativity?

Dogging Bo after every stop and refusing to see positives is being negative. Realizing that Nebraska isn't in the same position it was 20 years ago (regardless of HC) in the CFB world isn't negativity, it's a realistic view of the situation. I want NU to pull in top 10 ranked recruiting classes and be in the playoff every year, but I also recognize that the changes in the sport over the last 20 years haven't benefited NU in the slightest. This isn't some Tony Robbins sh#t.

Good Points, I don't have lower expectation for Nebraska football than I ever did. But you are very correct that the CFB landscape has changed and that the changes didn't benefit NU. To me it just makes me realize that TO was a very special coach and really was the driving force behind the success.

There are only a few very special coaches out there BP may or may not be one, but he is a pretty good coach. Look how long Alabama waited for there special coach after Bryant died? Stallings had about 4 good year, but couldn't take the pressure. They basically went 20 years of up and down before Sabin got there.

 

[NUpolo8]

(To Hunter74, the quote thingy wasn't working)

Nebraska may have played for a conference title in 2012, but only in the most basic sense of the word. They were down by two scores before my first beer got drank and got drummed.

So no, I'm not willing to get a guy to do the same. I think Nebraska could get a BETTER coach than who they have now. And they'd probably do it like how they got Miles, if not better. And that is seeming to work out pretty well so far.

 

[knapplc]

What pisses me off about the Bo-Leavers is they totally discount Bo's 2009 Sun Belt Conference championship. Give the man the credit he's due!

 

[Landlord]

So, if we fire Bo, we're going to have to wait 15 years before we make a bowl game?!

Is this what you want?!

you have to win half your games to make a bowl game. slightly harder to make the tourney.

68 teams make the tourney compared to 35 bowl games (70 teams).

 

[knapplc]

So, if we fire Bo, we're going to have to wait 15 years before we make a bowl game?!

Is this what you want?!

you have to win half your games to make a bowl game. slightly harder to make the tourney.

68 teams make the tourney compared to 35 bowl games (70 teams).

Or, 70 teams out of 120 compared to 68 teams out of 360-something.

 

[NUpolo8]

What pisses me off about the Bo-Leavers is they totally discount Bo's 2009 Sun Belt Conference championship. Give the man the credit he's due!

That's funny.

Now go be a mod and a friend and edit my grammatical error in this thread title.

 

[knapplc]

I fixed the thread title and the tag.

 

[74Hunter]

(To So no, I'm not willing to get a guy to do the same. I think Nebraska could get a BETTER coach than who they have now. And they'd probably do it like how they got Miles, if not better. And that is seeming to work out pretty well so far.

Go ahead and discount playing in the 2012 CCG because we got throttled. Doesn't mean we didn't play, just because you have an agenda.

I'm still waiting to see that realistic better coach that's out there that would come here. If we fire another #9winner, it's going to make the last 3 coaching searches look like well thought out, well executed plans.