Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
If Langsdorf could handle the New York media, he should be able to hold his own against the Omaha World-Herald.
Danny Langsdorf New Offensive Coordinator
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billdozer15
All-Conference
I'm actually more concerned now after seein this. So far we havent hired anyone of consequence from anywhere that has a history of winning. What makes everyone so sure being at NU will magically make them winners?
Not saying it cant happen, but I feel like we have taken a really large gamble on the staff we have hired so far, starting at the top.
Here is what we know to be true:
Mike Riley won sporadically at Oregon State with a lifetime winning percentage of just over .500
His major hires are all guys whom coached with him at OSU
Mike Riley seems to be the guy who is actually running the offense, but we hired Mr. Langsdorf for the OC position, who again has been coaching a while but still hasnt proven success anywhere. (Save me the 1 year at NY with Eli Manning and the statistical turnaround, this could just be coincidence, no track record)
I know the vast majority on this board are confident in Mike Riley. But all I'm seeing is alot of justifying why, no clear evidence....and thats scary. Michigan just hired Jim Harbaugh, is there any doubts he will get that program moving in the right direction? I know in our division a monkey could win 9 games a year. I just hope we didnt hire a toad instead.
Minnesota_husker
All-American
As much as I am excited for what Langsdorf and Riley can bring to Nebraska.. lets not forget what a lot of our current guys are good at
ption/run heavy.
I would love to see us start running the ball out of an I-form set.
But we dont have a pro-style pocket passing QB so offense will probably change.
Excited to see what happens but also curious to see what happens with RB's
ption/run heavy.I would love to see us start running the ball out of an I-form set.
But we dont have a pro-style pocket passing QB so offense will probably change.
Excited to see what happens but also curious to see what happens with RB's
He'll probably get more heat here, actually. Can't imagine they're too interested in the QB coach there. Head coach and players for sure. Coordinators as well. Position coaches, not so much.
wiuhusker
Starter
I hope this is being said with great amounts of sarcasm. Odell may have been the best WR in the league this year
admo
Heisman Trophy Winner
I agree Minnesota. I-form sets... QB under center... Some play action... Some shotgun formation with single back or empty backfield.....As much as I am excited for what Langsdorf and Riley can bring to Nebraska.. lets not forget what a lot of our current guys are good at
I would love to see us start running the ball out of an I-form set.
But we dont have a pro-style pocket passing QB so offense will probably change.
Excited to see what happens but also curious to see what happens with RB's
There is no reason a pro-style offense can't have a few different formations.
I don't know if the system QB needed is on the current returning roster. If not I think Riley said he would adjust the offense.
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sd'sker
Banned
got to disagree here, chief. i knew of a guy who coached at lsu, ou, and neb. said, by far, neb. was the most vicious. cost him some pretty big games, even.
Count 'Bility
Banned
bright lights of Lincoln are sooo distracting
Xmas32
All-Conference
I'm actually more concerned now after seein this. So far we havent hired anyone of consequence from anywhere that has a history of winning. What makes everyone so sure being at NU will magically make them winners?
Not saying it cant happen, but I feel like we have taken a really large gamble on the staff we have hired so far, starting at the top.
Here is what we know to be true:
Mike Riley won sporadically at Oregon State with a lifetime winning percentage of just over .500
His major hires are all guys whom coached with him at OSU
Mike Riley seems to be the guy who is actually running the offense, but we hired Mr. Langsdorf for the OC position, who again has been coaching a while but still hasnt proven success anywhere. (Save me the 1 year at NY with Eli Manning and the statistical turnaround, this could just be coincidence, no track record)
I know the vast majority on this board are confident in Mike Riley. But all I'm seeing is alot of justifying why, no clear evidence....and thats scary. Michigan just hired Jim Harbaugh, is there any doubts he will get that program moving in the right direction? I know in our division a monkey could win 9 games a year. I just hope we didnt hire a toad instead.
I get this line of thinking but simply disagree with you, which is no biggie. I don't care what the media has to say about the hire. But all I've read so far is Riley has garnered near universal respect from every coach who has been asked about him and thinks the world of him as a coach and talent evaluator. Lastly, to me the proof is in the pudding, can you put guys in the NFL? Oregon State currently has 19 guys in the NFL which to me is insane given Corvallis' location. By comparison, Nebraska has 26 guys.
http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209264255
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=186555
Not saying it cant happen, but I feel like we have taken a really large gamble on the staff we have hired so far, starting at the top.
Here is what we know to be true:
Mike Riley won sporadically at Oregon State with a lifetime winning percentage of just over .500
His major hires are all guys whom coached with him at OSU
Mike Riley seems to be the guy who is actually running the offense, but we hired Mr. Langsdorf for the OC position, who again has been coaching a while but still hasnt proven success anywhere. (Save me the 1 year at NY with Eli Manning and the statistical turnaround, this could just be coincidence, no track record)
I know the vast majority on this board are confident in Mike Riley. But all I'm seeing is alot of justifying why, no clear evidence....and thats scary. Michigan just hired Jim Harbaugh, is there any doubts he will get that program moving in the right direction? I know in our division a monkey could win 9 games a year. I just hope we didnt hire a toad instead.
I get this line of thinking but simply disagree with you, which is no biggie. I don't care what the media has to say about the hire. But all I've read so far is Riley has garnered near universal respect from every coach who has been asked about him and thinks the world of him as a coach and talent evaluator. Lastly, to me the proof is in the pudding, can you put guys in the NFL? Oregon State currently has 19 guys in the NFL which to me is insane given Corvallis' location. By comparison, Nebraska has 26 guys.
http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209264255
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=186555
alexhortdog95
Starter
Here's my take on this (and also on Coach Riley):
Since when does a QB have to do this every play:
I am sick of the newer, 'check with me' style of offense. It's the kind of offense you run with little 10 - 12 year old youth who are still learning how to play the game. Hell, it's not even how check-with-me originally worked. QB would have two or three plays. Guys would check with the QB at the LOC on what was being run. It was up to the QB to make the call. Today's 'check with me' doesn't do that.
It handcuffs the thought process of a quarterback. It doesn't require discipline of a QB to know what he's seeing. He just goes out there, and reacts the way the coaches want him to - after looking to the sideline for help. How does that help him see the robber, or quarters coverage, or properly read a zone blitzing back who is about to blast him into next week?
Simple. It doesn't. It makes simpletons of a game that is complex.
You know why we have had QBs that have been so loose with the ball? Because they aren't being taught to read a defense. I'm not talking just about our guys - I'm talking about guys like a RGIII, or a guy like Johnny Football a/k/a the Money Badger. I like RGIII, but the skillset to read a D isn't there. Wasn't asked to do it in college - the coaches did it for him. In the pro game, you don't get that luxury.
My father used to always say, "There are some old things that we do which make no sense to do, but there are some old things we do that make perfect sense to do."
Can we please stop worrying about the current players and how they're going to adjust to the game?
Armstrong is a quarterback.
Stanton is a quarterback.
Fyfe is a quarterback.
Last I checked, the definition of a quarterback is to be the guy out on the field that puts players in the right position. Can we say our QBs have done that? If so, when was the last time we saw that?
I know when (damn me for putting this out there)....
No matter what anybody says - this dude was one of the most UNDERRATED QBs in school history, and in my opinion, the last guy who actually was a prototypical QB.
Line up. Read the D. Audible if need be. Call out protections. Understand the game. That's the job of a QB, and it is what they will be asked to do by the new head coach.
I applaud the guy and hope he does well.
Since when does a QB have to do this every play:
I am sick of the newer, 'check with me' style of offense. It's the kind of offense you run with little 10 - 12 year old youth who are still learning how to play the game. Hell, it's not even how check-with-me originally worked. QB would have two or three plays. Guys would check with the QB at the LOC on what was being run. It was up to the QB to make the call. Today's 'check with me' doesn't do that.
It handcuffs the thought process of a quarterback. It doesn't require discipline of a QB to know what he's seeing. He just goes out there, and reacts the way the coaches want him to - after looking to the sideline for help. How does that help him see the robber, or quarters coverage, or properly read a zone blitzing back who is about to blast him into next week?
Simple. It doesn't. It makes simpletons of a game that is complex.
You know why we have had QBs that have been so loose with the ball? Because they aren't being taught to read a defense. I'm not talking just about our guys - I'm talking about guys like a RGIII, or a guy like Johnny Football a/k/a the Money Badger. I like RGIII, but the skillset to read a D isn't there. Wasn't asked to do it in college - the coaches did it for him. In the pro game, you don't get that luxury.
My father used to always say, "There are some old things that we do which make no sense to do, but there are some old things we do that make perfect sense to do."
Can we please stop worrying about the current players and how they're going to adjust to the game?
Armstrong is a quarterback.
Stanton is a quarterback.
Fyfe is a quarterback.
Last I checked, the definition of a quarterback is to be the guy out on the field that puts players in the right position. Can we say our QBs have done that? If so, when was the last time we saw that?
I know when (damn me for putting this out there)....
No matter what anybody says - this dude was one of the most UNDERRATED QBs in school history, and in my opinion, the last guy who actually was a prototypical QB.
Line up. Read the D. Audible if need be. Call out protections. Understand the game. That's the job of a QB, and it is what they will be asked to do by the new head coach.
I applaud the guy and hope he does well.
LumberJackSker
All-American
I wonder where they ranked in completions?
They were 16th, 41st, 32nd, 61st and 10th in completion percentage over those five years so probably on the fringe of the Top 20 as well.
Two of those years they were almost exactly 1% better than Nebraska under Martinez. The other years they were significantly better.
Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
The Holiday Bowl against USC. Beck went to a quick huddle, dispensed with the sideline gazing, and Armstrong and Co. cranked out 94 plays.
alexhortdog95
Starter
I figured Beck's name would come up. Got me to thinking....
What position did Beck play in college? I know it says he went to UCF and played 84-85. What position?