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Frost Fired!

Tell me if you remember it differently:

Scott Frost arrives as UNL already a conquering hero. Some posters here claim they knew it would never work, but they're lying. He was the hottest hire in college football and any fanbase would have expected results.

Scott's first season opens with the worst start in Nebraska football history. Fans are a a bit shocked but stand behind him. He's changing the culture. Scott finishes the season 4-2 and Husker Nation is actually full of optimism. Adrian Martinez is his man and the future looks bright. The college football world agrees.

Season two fails to build on season one. Technically they won one more game. Doesn't feel like progress, but any grumbling armchair doubter is shouted down by fans advocating patience: Scott is still retooling the mess he inherited.

Season three is the Covid season. Scott gets some props for pushing the Big 10 to play the season. The on-field results show no improvement. There's an increase in legitimate grumbling, but it's the Covid season so let's move on.

Season four is Scott's worst season and his best season. 3-9, but they take six Top 20 teams down to the wire. Are they under-talented guys playing over their heads, is there something to the single score curse, is it neither or both? Whatever you think of Scott Frost, Nebraska football now has a national reputation for finding creative ways to lose and it's kinda embarrassing.

And this is the point where any football program you would want to emulate puts the head coach on the hot seat. Turns out that's not anecdotal. No coach in college football who posted Scott Frost's four year record was evert brought back for a fifth season. But Nebraska brought him back. I'm sure Scott got razzed by a guy at Misty's, but I bet he signed a lot more autographs. He also got a contract extension.

Season five -- Scott's make or break season -- starts out as an absolute shitshow. And now it seems like the whole thing was the same ********. And the rumors folks didn't want to dignify in the past suddenly make a lot more sense. Scott gives horrible press conferences, throws people under the bus, then gets fired for losing to Georgia Southern at home. Even then the blue-haired contingent of Husker fans worry we were too unkind to him.

Husker fan expectations? A bowl game. Not having the worst record against ranked opponents in all of college football. A 6-6 season might have saved him. The opposite of unreasonable.

Husker fans were better to Scott Frost than he deserved. So he should probably STFU.
 
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TGHusker said:
Speaking of Naught equals Naught - Frost should NAUGHT coached at Neb and Neb should NAUGHT have hired him

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I mean, there was just no way that Frost, who grow up in Nebraska and played for Nebraska, could have had any idea about the level of visibility the Nebraska football program has. If I remember correctly, he was basically invisible as the starting QB while he was here. Fun fact, did you know that he was the starting QB at Nebraska for the 96-97 seasons?
 
SoDak said:
I mean, there was just no way that Frost, who grow up in Nebraska and played for Nebraska, could have had any idea about the level of visibility the Nebraska football program has. If I remember correctly, he was basically invisible as the starting QB while he was here. Fun fact, did you know that he was the starting QB at Nebraska for the 96-97 seasons?
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Really!! Push me over with a feather.
 
SoDak said:
I mean, there was just no way that Frost, who grow up in Nebraska and played for Nebraska, could have had any idea about the level of visibility the Nebraska football program has. If I remember correctly, he was basically invisible as the starting QB while he was here. Fun fact, did you know that he was the starting QB at Nebraska for the 96-97 seasons?
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How could he know if he was hiding in the closet?
 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Tell me if you remember it differently:

Scott Frost arrives as UNL already a conquering hero. Some posters here claim they knew it would never work, but they're lying.
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It took about 6 games to realize he was worse than Riley.

I wouldn't say I knew it would never work, I just knew it for the majority of the time he was here, and was routinely shouted down for stating the obvious.
 
I'm still not sure why it didn't work. Scott Frost was mentored by some of the best football coaches in history and proved himself as both OC at Oregon and HC at UCF. For all the talk about all the pressure at Nebraska, Riley's last season left the bar really low, and the Frost hype should have given Nebraska its best recruiting edge in years.

I think Frost still knew how to run workable and proven offensive and defensive schemes. My guess is he just didn't have an eye for talent after all. Everything else is just bad mojo and I sure didn't see that coming in 2018.
 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I'm still not sure why it didn't work. Scott Frost was mentored by some of the best football coaches in history and proved himself as both OC at Oregon and HC at UCF. For all the talk about all the pressure at Nebraska, Riley's last season left the bar really low, and the Frost hype should have given Nebraska its best recruiting edge in years.

I think Frost still knew how to run workable and proven offensive and defensive schemes. My guess is he just didn't have an eye for talent after all. Everything else is just bad mojo and I sure didn't see that coming in 2018.
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Hubris and a little bit of bad luck. Frost was and still is a great offensive playcaller. The creativity in some of his schemes is impressive. However, his downfall was that he was overconfident in his abilities and lacked the flexibility to pivot when situations arose. His offense relies on being able to either score fast or churn out numerous first downs. If the offense stalls, he leaves his defense susceptible and they will be worn out by the fourth quarter which often occurred throughout his tenure.

Bad luck includes the Akron rainout which was a much bigger deal than we could have imagined at the time, Adrian being intentionally hurt by the Colorado scumbags, the Big Ten's Covid response, etc.
 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I'm still not sure why it didn't work. Scott Frost was mentored by some of the best football coaches in history and proved himself as both OC at Oregon and HC at UCF. For all the talk about all the pressure at Nebraska, Riley's last season left the bar really low, and the Frost hype should have given Nebraska its best recruiting edge in years.

I think Frost still knew how to run workable and proven offensive and defensive schemes. My guess is he just didn't have an eye for talent after all. Everything else is just bad mojo and I sure didn't see that coming in 2018.
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There were also some interesting comments from a nameless assistant (or maybe it was Barrett Ruud?) about how the UCF guys already had a chip on their shoulders and loved working. A lot of the Nebraska players, including ones recruited by Frost, just didn't have the same self-motivation and Frost never figured out how to bring that out of them. Many of the players like being "Nebraska football players" more than they liked playing football and Frost wasn't successful in getting rid of that attitude.
 
Husker_In_WI said:
There were also some interesting comments from a nameless assistant (or maybe it was Barrett Ruud?) about how the UCF guys already had a chip on their shoulders and loved working. A lot of the Nebraska players, including ones recruited by Frost, just didn't have the same self-motivation and Frost never figured out how to bring that out of them. Many of the players like being "Nebraska football players" more than they liked playing football and Frost wasn't successful in getting rid of that attitude.
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Eh, that's the kind of attitude good coaches flush out on Day One, and most certainly by Year Five when you've recruited, developed and promoted all the players.

I guess that still falls under the category of not having the eye for talent.
 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Eh, that's the kind of attitude good coaches flush out on Day One, and most certainly by Year Five when you've recruited, developed and promoted all the players.

I guess that still falls under the category of not having the eye for talent.
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I think he and the staff could identify talent (ie - Wandale, McCaffrey, Mo Washington, Trey Palmer, Ty Robinson, Adrian, Bullock brothers, etc.), but struggled to merge the talent with the strategy. You were right though, the attitude issues should have been weeded out quickly so I don't think it was a lacked of talent why we couldn't beat the Minnesotas, Iowas, or Northwesterns of the world.
 
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