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indianahusker

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Apparently at LSU, you don't have to have all the hype coming out of high school (wasn't that one of the reasons FS was fired? Not enough great players?)...here's a comparison of stars out of high school between NU and LSU's defenses...

Nebraska----------------LSU

Turner (3)----------------Jackson(3)

Potter (4)----------------Pittman(4)

Suh (4)----------------Dorsey(4)

Dixon (4)----------------Favorite(4)

Ruud (4)----------------Sanders(4)

Octavien (4)----------------Highsmith(3)

Dillard (4)----------------Beckwith(4)

Murillo (4)----------------Zenon(3)

Bowman (5)----------------Jackson(3)

Asante (4)----------------Steltz(4)

Green (2)----------------Taylor(3)

Avg Stars

Nebraska (3.82)---------------LSU (3.54)

Throw in Jones (5) instead of Murillo and Thenarse (4) instead of Green and NU averages an astonishing 4.09 stars per player.

Help me out here. Which team has the nation's #1 defense and which team has the nation's #112th ranked defense?

 
Osborne used to take guys that no one else was even looking at and make them into stars. You can have guys that are 5 stars and if they don't have passion or heart and a coach that feels the same, it won't matter. You have a guy that's one or two stars and give him coaches that know how to teach them what's important to win on the field and they will respect him and do whatever he asks of them everytime.

That's the difference

 
hskrmama said:
Osborne used to take guys that no one else was even looking at and make them into stars. You can have guys that are 5 stars and if they don't have passion or heart and a coach that feels the same, it won't matter. You have a guy that's one or two stars and give him coaches that know how to teach them what's important to win on the field and they will respect him and do whatever he asks of them everytime.

That's the difference
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absolutely correct.

 
Hunter94 said:
hskrmama said:
Osborne used to take guys that no one else was even looking at and make them into stars. You can have guys that are 5 stars and if they don't have passion or heart and a coach that feels the same, it won't matter. You have a guy that's one or two stars and give him coaches that know how to teach them what's important to win on the field and they will respect him and do whatever he asks of them everytime.

That's the difference
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absolutely correct.
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Coz is like cancer to players. We need a fix, bring in a new guy

 
Stars are nothing more than potential talent at the next level. If talent always won, then the Yankees would always win the penant; the men's Olympic basketball team would always win the gold. Talent doesn't always win. I would think this year with some of the huge upsets would prove exactly that point. CU isn't even in the same league as OU in terms of talent, yet they beat them head to head. Stars are also individual talent. Unfortunately for recruits and coaches, football isn't an individual sport. The coach has to put together not the most talented team but the team that gels and works together the best.

 
Stars have nothing to do with who coaches play or recruit. Do you really think that coaches around the country are getting on rivals and saying "ok, this guy have 5 stars we have to go after him." Coaches recruit kids based on their film, how they perform at camps and what the needs of the team are.

I dont want the NU coaches not going after a kid because he has too many stars or not enough stars, they way everyone is talking it sounds like no one wants a 5 star recruit. I want the most talented players that wil play hard for NU and that are very coachable(doesnt matter if he has 5 stars or two stars).

Right now thouhg it does seem like out coaches recruit to much based on talent and not enough based on heart and coachablilty. (Which is what they do in the NFL, hmm..... i wonder why this is happening.)

 
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They may not get on rivals, but I've watched Tom Lemming's show and he's stated that he gets calls from a lot of coaches about certain high school players.

 
PowerofRed#1 said:
Hunter94 said:
hskrmama said:
Osborne used to take guys that no one else was even looking at and make them into stars. You can have guys that are 5 stars and if they don't have passion or heart and a coach that feels the same, it won't matter. You have a guy that's one or two stars and give him coaches that know how to teach them what's important to win on the field and they will respect him and do whatever he asks of them everytime.

That's the difference
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absolutely correct.
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Coz is like cancer to players. We need a fix, bring in a new guy
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We need chemotherapy?

 
indianahusker said:
Apparently at LSU, you don't have to have all the hype coming out of high school (wasn't that one of the reasons FS was fired? Not enough great players?)...here's a comparison of stars out of high school between NU and LSU's defenses...

Nebraska----------------LSU

Turner (3)----------------Jackson(3)

Potter (4)----------------Pittman(4)

Suh (4)----------------Dorsey(4)

Dixon (4)----------------Favorite(4)

Ruud (4)----------------Sanders(4)

Octavien (4)----------------Highsmith(3)

Dillard (4)----------------Beckwith(4)

Murillo (4)----------------Zenon(3)

Bowman (5)----------------Jackson(3)

Asante (4)----------------Steltz(4)

Green (2)----------------Taylor(3)

Avg Stars

Nebraska (3.82)---------------LSU (3.54)

Throw in Jones (5) instead of Murillo and Thenarse (4) instead of Green and NU averages an astonishing 4.09 stars per player.

Help me out here. Which team has the nation's #1 defense and which team has the nation's #112th ranked defense?
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nebraska has 112 and lsu has 1 defense does that help u........its THE COACHES!!!!!!

 
I'm not a recruiting guy however the 3 best College Players (Young, Bush, Peterson) of the last 5 years were all #1 coming out of High School. So the recruiting guys do know what they are talking about part of the time.

Also you should have Grixby instead of Bowman and instead of replacing Green with Thenarse replace him with Wilson and possibly Asante with Eisenhart. (since that is the way it during the games) Also McKeon started Saturday and most of the season so scratch Dillard out and add McKeon. Where does that put the average? With McKeon and Grixby(since they are the starters it is 3.63)

 
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