I hope we schedule KU and Mizzou as nonconference games

[Lil' Red]

Remember, Turner Gill is now at KU. If Mangino can get 10 win seasons well need I say more.

How did Mangino get 10 wins? Four HUGE cupcakes in the OOC, (teams, not real cupcakes) B12 north, NU, CU and KSU were down, ISU is ISU so the only competition was MU. In the south they did not have OU, UTerus and TTech, but Baylor aTm (they were down) and only competition was OSU

well said. the only team KU played that had a winning record that year was MU, the last game of the regular season. They missed all the big 3 from the south and caught the rest of the north, minus MU, in their worst years. in other words. a perfect storm for KU. what they did following shows that it truely was a once every 100 years type of season

Virginia Tech, A&M, and Oklahoma State all had winning records that year. I agree that KU was overrated but they did actual have a pretty decent team that year.

 

[fro daddy]

Remember, Turner Gill is now at KU. If Mangino can get 10 win seasons well need I say more.

How did Mangino get 10 wins? Four HUGE cupcakes in the OOC, (teams, not real cupcakes) B12 north, NU, CU and KSU were down, ISU is ISU so the only competition was MU. In the south they did not have OU, UTerus and TTech, but Baylor aTm (they were down) and only competition was OSU

well said. the only team KU played that had a winning record that year was MU, the last game of the regular season. They missed all the big 3 from the south and caught the rest of the north, minus MU, in their worst years. in other words. a perfect storm for KU. what they did following shows that it truely was a once every 100 years type of season

Virginia Tech, A&M, and Oklahoma State all had winning records that year. I agree that KU was overrated but they did actual have a pretty decent team that year.

i was talking regular season, so yes VT in the bowl, and OSU due to their bowl win. I did miss ATM, so you got me there. And KU did have a decent team. But again, not playing the three top teams in the south and losing to the only other good team in your division is not that great. It was a perfect storm. And personally I dont think Turner has a chance in you know where of touching that kind of season at KU.

And thats not a knock on Turner. But I dont think KU has the support to really become a player and they constantly lose recruting battles to other big 12 north programs. When Kansas (the state) gets really good players they either leave or go to KSU. They almost never beat MU for a player ( if i remember correctly MU is something like 29 of the last 32 in getting players when both schools offer) , they rarely get one over NE. SO if they are constantly lossing their wish list players to other schools, can get the best in their state & dont have the things in place to be a top program, then I just think Turner is set up for second rate finishes. I hope he gets a chance to move to something better

 

[huKSer]

Remember, Turner Gill is now at KU. If Mangino can get 10 win seasons well need I say more.

How did Mangino get 10 wins? Four HUGE cupcakes in the OOC, (teams, not real cupcakes) B12 north, NU, CU and KSU were down, ISU is ISU so the only competition was MU. In the south they did not have OU, UTerus and TTech, but Baylor aTm (they were down) and only competition was OSU

well said. the only team KU played that had a winning record that year was MU, the last game of the regular season. They missed all the big 3 from the south and caught the rest of the north, minus MU, in their worst years. in other words. a perfect storm for KU. what they did following shows that it truely was a once every 100 years type of season

Virginia Tech, A&M, and Oklahoma State all had winning records that year. I agree that KU was overrated but they did actual have a pretty decent team that year.

i was talking regular season, so yes VT in the bowl, and OSU due to their bowl win. I did miss ATM, so you got me there. And KU did have a decent team. But again, not playing the three top teams in the south and losing to the only other good team in your division is not that great. It was a perfect storm. And personally I dont think Turner has a chance in you know where of touching that kind of season at KU.

And thats not a knock on Turner. But I dont think KU has the support to really become a player and they constantly lose recruting battles to other big 12 north programs. When Kansas (the state) gets really good players they either leave or go to KSU. They almost never beat MU for a player ( if i remember correctly MU is something like 29 of the last 32 in getting players when both schools offer) , they rarely get one over NE. SO if they are constantly lossing their wish list players to other schools, can get the best in their state & dont have the things in place to be a top program, then I just think Turner is set up for second rate.

For the first several years of Pinkel's tenure and for years before, the exact same thing could be said of MU. NU would raid Missouri for their best players, like Wistrom. Osborne in the '80s said that the only way that ISU, CU, KU, KSU and MU would get any better is to give their coaches more than 2-3 years revolving door to get their programs established. Snyder, Mangino and Pinkel all struggled early, but the administration stuck with them and results followed.

 

[VA Husker Fan]

Yeah I'd like a non-conference schedule with KU and Mizzou. I also like Oklahoma as a non-conference game.

Oklahoma has already said it wouldn't happen cause they don't wanna play both us and Texas every year.

Didn't they say that while we were in the conference? They just didn't want to put themselves at a disadvantage to Texas in the conference by playing us every year while Texas played us less often. And that made very good sense.

Now that it would be a non-conference game, that changes everything. But as has been said, I think both schools current non-conf contracts will keep this from happening for a few years.

 

[fro daddy]

Remember, Turner Gill is now at KU. If Mangino can get 10 win seasons well need I say more.

How did Mangino get 10 wins? Four HUGE cupcakes in the OOC, (teams, not real cupcakes) B12 north, NU, CU and KSU were down, ISU is ISU so the only competition was MU. In the south they did not have OU, UTerus and TTech, but Baylor aTm (they were down) and only competition was OSU

well said. the only team KU played that had a winning record that year was MU, the last game of the regular season. They missed all the big 3 from the south and caught the rest of the north, minus MU, in their worst years. in other words. a perfect storm for KU. what they did following shows that it truely was a once every 100 years type of season

Virginia Tech, A&M, and Oklahoma State all had winning records that year. I agree that KU was overrated but they did actual have a pretty decent team that year.

i was talking regular season, so yes VT in the bowl, and OSU due to their bowl win. I did miss ATM, so you got me there. And KU did have a decent team. But again, not playing the three top teams in the south and losing to the only other good team in your division is not that great. It was a perfect storm. And personally I dont think Turner has a chance in you know where of touching that kind of season at KU.

And thats not a knock on Turner. But I dont think KU has the support to really become a player and they constantly lose recruting battles to other big 12 north programs. When Kansas (the state) gets really good players they either leave or go to KSU. They almost never beat MU for a player ( if i remember correctly MU is something like 29 of the last 32 in getting players when both schools offer) , they rarely get one over NE. SO if they are constantly lossing their wish list players to other schools, can get the best in their state & dont have the things in place to be a top program, then I just think Turner is set up for second rate.

For the first several years of Pinkel's tenure and for years before, the exact same thing could be said of MU. NU would raid Missouri for their best players, like Wistrom. Osborne in the '80s said that the only way that ISU, CU, KU, KSU and MU would get any better is to give their coaches more than 2-3 years revolving door to get their programs established. Snyder, Mangino and Pinkel all struggled early, but the administration stuck with them and results followed.

It is true about a revolving door. Tough to win when you barely get a chance. But there is a major difference between talent in state between MU and KU and a major diffence in history and importance of football for the schools as well. Just as you mentioned Osborne's statment above, he also stated that MU was a sleeping giant with a number of good high level HS players, no D-1 in state competition and a school that had the desire and resources to contend. They just needed somebody to right the ship. Never was a comment like that made about KU and football. But i understand what you are saying

 

[Cy the Cyclone]

As the official spokesman for all things Iowa State Football (duly appointed by Jamie Pollard as of three minutes ago...you'll all get the press release right after he does)...we don't want to schedule Nebraska as one of our nonconference games. At Iowa State, we like to use our nonconference games to improve our team and get it ready for a grueling conference schedule. It would do us no good whatsoever to use one of our nonconference games to schedule a game against a team that fumbles and throws interceptions all the time. Sure...it would be cool to pad our defensive take-away stats with 8 gimmes a game...but it wouldn't really be much of a test for us... <_<

 

[huKSer]

As the official spokesman for all things Iowa State Football (duly appointed by Jamie Pollard as of three minutes ago...you'll all get the press release right after he does)...we don't want to schedule Nebraska as one of our nonconference games. At Iowa State, we like to use our nonconference games to improve our team and get it ready for a grueling conference schedule. It would do us no good whatsoever to use one of our nonconference games to schedule a game against a team that fumbles and throws interceptions all the time. Sure...it would be cool to pad our defensive take-away stats with 8 gimmes a game...but it wouldn't really be much of a test for us... <_<

I don't believe you are the spokesman until I see it on Orangebloods.com

 

[billdozer15]

I say no, I dont want to play any teams from the old Big8+4-2. Certainly not because I am scared, but because I dont want to aid a conference that did nothing but try to bring us to our knees. The old Big 8 schools wanted to side with the old SWC all in an effort to bring us down, we now moved onto an even greater position without their help. I have no interest in giving them any sort of attention.

 

[jayhawk]

Remember, Turner Gill is now at KU. If Mangino can get 10 win seasons well need I say more.

How did Mangino get 10 wins? Four HUGE cupcakes in the OOC, (teams, not real cupcakes) B12 north, NU, CU and KSU were down, ISU is ISU so the only competition was MU. In the south they did not have OU, UTerus and TTech, but Baylor aTm (they were down) and only competition was OSU

well said. the only team KU played that had a winning record that year was MU, the last game of the regular season. They missed all the big 3 from the south and caught the rest of the north, minus MU, in their worst years. in other words. a perfect storm for KU. what they did following shows that it truely was a once every 100 years type of season

No arguing the schedule was favorable, but we were the only team to go into Kyle field and win and we did beat Virginia Tech. We also had a pretty good team that year. I think it was a great year for us, not sure about once every HUNDRED years, but KU fans knew it was a special year for us. Say what you want, that was pretty hard to do and a great accomplishment byt he coach and team. Too bad the following teams could not keep up the level of performance.

 

[jayhawk]

As the official spokesman for all things Iowa State Football (duly appointed by Jamie Pollard as of three minutes ago...you'll all get the press release right after he does)...we don't want to schedule Nebraska as one of our nonconference games. At Iowa State, we like to use our nonconference games to improve our team and get it ready for a grueling conference schedule. It would do us no good whatsoever to use one of our nonconference games to schedule a game against a team that fumbles and throws interceptions all the time. Sure...it would be cool to pad our defensive take-away stats with 8 gimmes a game...but it wouldn't really be much of a test for us... <_<

I don't believe you are the spokesman until I see it on Orangebloods.com

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