is this team better than the teams we faced....

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melscott62

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I dont really think so. yes they have a great O, but their Dfense is much much worse than the last 2 times down there. plus no brad smith. I know daniels is a great QB, but I dont think he is a pick the team up on his shoulders and carry a team guy. I havent seen him tear up really good teams like smith could. I just dont think this team is that good. to me if we lose it is a serious mark against us. I dont think they are better than the colorado teams from a few years back and I know they arent better than the k state teams from a few years back. the fact that I am concerned about this game is very troublesome.

 
From a Missouri fan, I'd say yes.

I would definitely pick this team over either the 2003 or 2005 teams. I think this is the best team we've had in thirty years. Homer opinion, but I always though Brad Smith was inconsistent. Chase is not, and for that fact alone I'd choose him instead of Brad.

While our defense does suck I'd argue that our proficiency on offense more than makes up for it.

I also don't understand what former opponents have to do with it considering NU is obviously not as strong as they used to be.

 
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theantler said:
From a Missouri fan, I'd say yes.

I would definitely pick this team over either the 2003 or 2005 teams. I think this is the best team we've had in thirty years. Homer opinion, but I always though Brad Smith was inconsistent. Chase is not, and for that fact alone I'd choose him instead of Brad.

While our defense does suck I'd argue that our proficiency on offense more than makes up for it.

I also don't understand what former opponents have to do with it considering NU is obviously not as strong as they used to be.
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did you read my whole post?

 
melscott62 said:
theantler said:
From a Missouri fan, I'd say yes.

I would definitely pick this team over either the 2003 or 2005 teams. I think this is the best team we've had in thirty years. Homer opinion, but I always though Brad Smith was inconsistent. Chase is not, and for that fact alone I'd choose him instead of Brad.

While our defense does suck I'd argue that our proficiency on offense more than makes up for it.

I also don't understand what former opponents have to do with it considering NU is obviously not as strong as they used to be.
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did you read my whole post?
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Yes. I said it didn't matter how you did against those teams, Nebraska is a lot worse now than they were then. We could very well be worse than K-State was a few years ago and still be better than Nebraska. Understand?

 
theantler said:
melscott62 said:
theantler said:
From a Missouri fan, I'd say yes.

I would definitely pick this team over either the 2003 or 2005 teams. I think this is the best team we've had in thirty years. Homer opinion, but I always though Brad Smith was inconsistent. Chase is not, and for that fact alone I'd choose him instead of Brad.

While our defense does suck I'd argue that our proficiency on offense more than makes up for it.

I also don't understand what former opponents have to do with it considering NU is obviously not as strong as they used to be.
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did you read my whole post?
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Yes. I said it didn't matter how you did against those teams, Nebraska is a lot worse now than they were then. We could very well be worse than K-State was a few years ago and still be better than Nebraska. Understand?
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you didnt get me criticizing our current team out of my post. that was the point of my whole post.

here let me quote.......myself

to me if we lose it is a serious mark against us. I dont think they are better than the colorado teams from a few years back and I know they arent better than the k state teams from a few years back. the fact that I am concerned about this game is very troublesome.
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translation--> the fact that this is going to be a tough game means we are not very good

 
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Ok, fair enough.

While losing may mean you're not a great team anymore, Missouri isn't terrible. Last time I checked we're still the team to beat the North, and the majority of public opinion agrees with that. It's not like you're the underdog against an unranked team at home. Every team coming to Columbia will be the underdog this year.

Losing to Missouri isn't proof that Nebraska has fallen, it's more proof that Missouri has risen. Now, if Nebraska goes on to lose to Kansas, or Colorado, I'd say they have probably fallen. I'm also not declaring Missouri has risen, I know better than that.

There are power shifts in college football. NU wasn't always great, and Missouri won't always be bad. You can't always judge a team by their history, NU fans are going to have to get used to that.

 
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theantler said:
Ok, fair enough.

While losing may mean you're not a great team anymore, Missouri isn't terrible. Last time I checked we're still the team to beat the North, and the majority of public opinion agrees with that. It's not like you're the underdog against an unranked team at home. Every team coming to Columbia will be the underdog this year.

Losing to Missouri isn't proof that Nebraska has fallen, it's more proof that Missouri has risen. Now, if Nebraska goes on to lose to Kansas, or Colorado, I'd say they have probably fallen. I'm also not declaring Missouri has risen, I know better than that.

There are power shifts in college football. NU wasn't always great, and Missouri won't always be bad. You can't always judge a team by their history, NU fans are going to have to get used to that.
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:yeah

BTW we are gettin used to it and it is gettin old!

 
theantler said:
Ok, fair enough.

While losing may mean you're not a great team anymore, Missouri isn't terrible. Last time I checked we're still the team to beat the North, and the majority of public opinion agrees with that. It's not like you're the underdog against an unranked team at home. Every team coming to Columbia will be the underdog this year.

Losing to Missouri isn't proof that Nebraska has fallen, it's more proof that Missouri has risen. Now, if Nebraska goes on to lose to Kansas, or Colorado, I'd say they have probably fallen. I'm also not declaring Missouri has risen, I know better than that.

There are power shifts in college football. NU wasn't always great, and Missouri won't always be bad. You can't always judge a team by their history, NU fans are going to have to get used to that.
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I doint know how to say this without sounding arrogant. forgive me if I do. but for us winning th north means nothing. dont get me wrong you have to win the north to reach your goals, and it is nice and all, but now that we have done that, it SHOULD be a given, esp considering how weak the north is. our goal is to get back to where we were. we would have mowed through this whole conference(north and south) this year. the fact that you guys are in relative equals is NOT a good sign. It would bother me if you guys were a really good team, but unless your D really picks it your not. the whole thing makes me sad that we have fallen this far. I do see signs of that things could improve though. our talent is getting better.

 
I'm less worried about Mizzou and what difficulties they present then I am worried about the Huskers overall performance and our road woes.

 
I think it's absolutely silly that you think the North title is a given. If you keep those expectations you're going to watch more unsuccessful seasons than successful ones. The Big 12 North isn't as bad as the media likes to say, just like the SEC isn't that great. I really don't understand why you'd believe NU is entitled to winning the same way they did under Osbourne considering they have a new coach and a totally different strategy. Maybe that's just me.

 
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I think it's absolutely silly that you think the North title is a given. If you keep those expectations you're going to watch more unsuccessful seasons than successful ones. The Big 12 North isn't as bad as the media likes to say, just like the SEC isn't that great. I really don't understand why you'd believe NU is entitled to winning the same way they did under Osbourne considering they have a new coach and a totally different strategy. Maybe that's just me.
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its not a given, its an expectation. not winning the north=failure(unless we lose to a top 5 team or something like the) we as a state refuse to except being average. that is why this board has been in a constant uproar for quite some time.

if our current recuiting class does not TOTALLY fall apart we should have the talent to play at a level near to the osborne era. the coaches are still a HUGE ?

this has nothing to do with being entitled. we have a great program. you know why? because we worked for a great program. our coaches, our players, our school and our state have labored to get that status. I love missouri. I lived there for a little while and loved it. As soon as I get done with med school I am moving right back there. that being said, the level of commitment that you guys have to your team is not equal to Nebraska. I means more to Nebraska, and that is why they will not stay at the current mediocre status that they are currently stuck in.

 
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Missouri is a good team with some problems. The Huskers are a good team with some problems. I can understand missouri fans thinking that they have the best team they have had in 30 years, that is not hard to accomplish and I am not saying that to stir sh#t, I am just saying that you will need to win against us on a consistant basis over a period of years 20 or more to compare the two programs. The way I see it a program is its past present and future and until you have a winning tradition the programs need not be compared. Now there are years where we will be down and you are up. Does that make you a better program. I do not think so, you just had a better year.

Will we win this game, that remains to be seen. Both teams can score and neither team has shown they can play consistant defense. The crowd will be a huge benifit to the tigers and it will play a very large roll in the outcome. If we can score early and get some stops on defense then we will have a better chance to win. If the tigers get up early and force some turnovers then we are in big trouble.

This should be a great game and it will be a tough loss for which ever team comes up short. I hope that which ever team loses does not let it be the defining moment of their season. There are great players on both teams and I look forward to the match up.

GBR

 
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