And helped me win a FFL. :thumbsGuy was clutch in the playoffs.
And helped me win a FFL. :thumbsGuy was clutch in the playoffs.
The guy pretty much brought Arizona into the limelight these past couple years. Good luck to him in retirement!
Did you notice the sleeves on his shirt? I don't know what God looks like, but i guarantee He wouldn't wear that shirt.Sorry in advance... but this cracked me up (and I'm a big fan of Kurt, having lived in St. Louis when the Rams first got there from LA, and seeing the totally improbable story of a grocery clerk winning the Superbowl.)
so i guess ill be the first one to ask the question here....does he belong in the HOF?
I guess I really don't know if he belongs in the HOF. That's like asking if Brett Favre will be in the HOF. There are pros and cons to each.I will go out on a limb and say YES he belongs in the HOF. I typically do not agree with much of what Collin Cowherd says, and rarely even listen to his show, but I do agree with him on Warner.
St. Louis was not very good before he was there. He (along with good RB and WR) took this team from nobody to a Super Bowl and led the "greatest show on turf"....Once he left, well....look at the Rams
He showed up in Arizona, and they weren't very good. Once again, he took nobody and turned them into Super Bowl team. (along with 2 great WR)..... I will bet that when he is gone, they will NOT be as good, even with the WR.
He has HOF numbers and the fact that he shows up in big games speaks volumes. He should be in the HOF, and maybe a first ballot HOF.
I am not biased, I don't like the Rams or Cardinals........in fact, my STEELERS have beaten both during their run to 6 titles :laughpound
Is the bolded part a joke? I'm not a huge Favre supporter but there is no chance he doesn't go in on the first ballot. He has broken most of Marino's numbers and he has a Ring, Marino got in first ballot I believe.so i guess ill be the first one to ask the question here....does he belong in the HOF?I guess I really don't know if he belongs in the HOF. That's like asking if Brett Favre will be in the HOF. There are pros and cons to each.I will go out on a limb and say YES he belongs in the HOF. I typically do not agree with much of what Collin Cowherd says, and rarely even listen to his show, but I do agree with him on Warner.
St. Louis was not very good before he was there. He (along with good RB and WR) took this team from nobody to a Super Bowl and led the "greatest show on turf"....Once he left, well....look at the Rams
He showed up in Arizona, and they weren't very good. Once again, he took nobody and turned them into Super Bowl team. (along with 2 great WR)..... I will bet that when he is gone, they will NOT be as good, even with the WR.
He has HOF numbers and the fact that he shows up in big games speaks volumes. He should be in the HOF, and maybe a first ballot HOF.
I am not biased, I don't like the Rams or Cardinals........in fact, my STEELERS have beaten both during their run to 6 titles :laughpound
Does his body of work match those of Payton Manning and Tom Brady, or for that matter Ben Roethlisberger, all of whom will probably be future HOFers?
Actually no it's not a joke. There are some who will argue his tendencies to do too much has cost his team championships. Marino was younger and had fewer seasons when he set those records. The new gold standards are Manning and Brady, and having a Superbowl ring is not an automatic inclusion in the HOF anymore.Is the bolded part a joke? I'm not a huge Favre supporter but there is no chance he doesn't go in on the first ballot. He has broken most of Marino's numbers and he has a Ring, Marino got in first ballot I believe.so i guess ill be the first one to ask the question here....does he belong in the HOF?I guess I really don't know if he belongs in the HOF. That's like asking if Brett Favre will be in the HOF. There are pros and cons to each.I will go out on a limb and say YES he belongs in the HOF. I typically do not agree with much of what Collin Cowherd says, and rarely even listen to his show, but I do agree with him on Warner.
St. Louis was not very good before he was there. He (along with good RB and WR) took this team from nobody to a Super Bowl and led the "greatest show on turf"....Once he left, well....look at the Rams
He showed up in Arizona, and they weren't very good. Once again, he took nobody and turned them into Super Bowl team. (along with 2 great WR)..... I will bet that when he is gone, they will NOT be as good, even with the WR.
He has HOF numbers and the fact that he shows up in big games speaks volumes. He should be in the HOF, and maybe a first ballot HOF.
I am not biased, I don't like the Rams or Cardinals........in fact, my STEELERS have beaten both during their run to 6 titles :laughpound
Does his body of work match those of Payton Manning and Tom Brady, or for that matter Ben Roethlisberger, all of whom will probably be future HOFers?
I'm not a big Farve guy, but as 3 time MVP, Superbowl champ, multiple pro-bowler and record setter, I don't think it will be close at all. Not even a little bit. As for Warner, I'm not sure. He's a classy guy that did some really good things (Superbowl champ, league MVP, etc.) plus took two different teams to the superbowl.Actually no it's not a joke. There are some who will argue his tendencies to do too much has cost his team championships. Marino was younger and had fewer seasons when he set those records. The new gold standards are Manning and Brady, and having a Superbowl ring is not an automatic inclusion in the HOF anymore.
My personal feeling is he will be voted in the HOF, but I believe the vote will be closer than some people think.