Lane Kiffin

[Blackshirt316]

Doubtful.

Kiffin has the best assistants money can buy. OTOH, we were nowhere in the same universe to assembling the same team of assistants that Tennessee has. Monte Kiffin, Lance Thompson, Ed Orgeron, Jim Chaney, etc., is a fantastic staff of coaches and recruiters.

It really reminds me of the old Oklahoma staff Bob Stoops had when Mark Mangino, Mike Stoops, Chuck Long and those guys were apart of his staff.

What about the Snyder staff with Bob Stoops, Mike Stoops, Mark Mangino, Brent Venebles, Jim Leavitt, Brett Bielima, Dana Dimel and Greg Petersen from the early/mid 90's. That was a GREAT staff but never sniffed a national title and K-State didn't beat Nebraska. K-State didn't beat NU until 1998, and almost all of those guys were gone by then. (Pretty sure only Mangino and Venebles were still there till they joined Bob at OU the following year)

A great staff is one thing but it doesn't necessarily mean you will be a great team. I was really hoping the Meltdown in Oakland would have waited until we lost Wats, because I'd love to have him running the offense here. But Lane I think will end up much like his dad did. One of the BEST Coordinators in the game but not really head coach material.

You gotta remember what that staff built up in Kansas.

There is a reason KSU was basically non-existent and the joke of the country. And you just gave reason to why they became a national power for almost a decade thanks to what those coaches helped establish.

Snyder coached that team for 17 seasons and won as many games in that period as the team did in the previous 53 years. He also took that team to a 44-7 record from '97-'00.

You can hate by saying that he never won a national title, but just winning in Manhattan was an accomplishment for that coaching staff. Heck, winning again down there will be an accomplishment for Snyder.

No hate intended at all, All I'm saying is that just because on paper it's a great staff and can recruit well, doesn't mean they are going to win anything. Heck our last staff was considered by many outside the program to be one of the best staffs in the country who could recruit extremely well. How did that turn out?

I brought up the K-State example because that was a so called super staff and they never beat Nebraska, a staff consisted of guys invested in a program long term, who were used to working with each other and had one cohesive perspective. I'll take the later over the former every day of the week because the "super staff" though invested in the short term for that program isn't a sum of it's parts simply because those parts always have an eye for the future and their next gig. And therefore may not be a great unit as a whole.

 

[husker98]

The article linked below got me thinking about Lane Kiffin at Tennessee:

He came from the raiders after things didn't work out so well there

He has a pro mindset

He recruits well

He is quoted in this article for talking about how he will give players a professional experience in College.

He is arrogant and already is stepping on toes in his conference

He replaced a coach that had been around for a long time who had had competitive teams very recently.

He has no ties to Tennessee and is unfamiliar with their traditions.

I have a pretty good idea about how this is going to work out on Tennessee since I think we saw the exact same thing here at Nebraska and at Notre Dame.

Why would Tennessee try that route again?

Big differance tho is that kiffin's dad is Monte Kiffin.... yes the co-founder of our black shirt tradition and the last i heard he is joinging his boy down in tennessee. So the defense at least will be rocky top solid. Lane may go and piss off some people but i think dad and his defense keeps them in games.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

Considering Kiffin has spent more time Coaching at the College level what exactly constitutes being called a “NFL” guy or having a “Pro” mindset? Would Pete Carroll be a “NFL” guy with a “Pro” mindset? Spurrier and Lou Holtz spent time in the NFL are/were they “NFL” guys with a “Pro” mindset? Pelini spent a good portion of his coaching career in the NFL does he qualify? I’m just wondering what the criteria for being called a “NFL” guy is.

There were plenty of people around here that wanted Lane Kiffin to come here as either a HC or Coordinator. Did that all of a sudden change?

For the record, who cares if he is pissing people off in his conference? Isn’t that what Spurrier did for years while at Florida?

This guy will win while at Tennessee. They were short on offensive fire power under Fulmer and that killed them the last few years. Kiffin will bring in the kids that are needed to boost that add that with the fact that his dad is taking over an already solid defense and you have a recipe for wins.